Blueray Hypersonic October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 Temasek offering first retail bonds at 2.7% fixed interest Temasek chief financial officer Leong Wai Leng said: "We are pleased to offer Temasek bonds to retail investors for the first time. "This helps Temasek to broaden its stakeholder base and provide Singapore retail investors the opportunity to participate in another retail product. https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/temasek-offering-first-retail-bonds-at-27-fixed-interest 2.70%pa for 5 years .... Next .... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Hypersonic October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 Temasek offering first retail bonds at 2.7% fixed interest https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/temasek-offering-first-retail-bonds-at-27-fixed-interest 2.70%pa for 5 years .... Next .... CPF no matchy matchy? Good point! Agreed. Can’t praise T2... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 Dont view it strictly at face value, bro. 1.88%pa absolute number may be higher But it is for 13mths in a rate rising environment As such, 1.75%pa for 6mths which provides better liquidity might be a better choice. Even 1.68%pa over 3mths is a better choice to me. Becos in 3mths, it could likely be 1.85%pa for the next 3 mths. totally agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 CPF no matchy matchy? not sure about CPF, but putting in cash for 2.70% fixed for 5 years ? Nah ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 CPF no matchy matchy? CPF rates is close but u can’t compare with CPF unless u are talking about people over 55yrs old. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 not sure about CPF, but putting in cash for 2.70% fixed for 5 years ? Nah ... Agreed it’s not such a good rate bearing in mind the 5yrs tenor. If u want to sell out in between, think there is the usual bid/offer spread which will eat into the interest earned right? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 Agreed it’s not such a good rate bearing in mind the 5yrs tenor. If u want to sell out in between, think there is the usual bid/offer spread which will eat into the interest earned right? not sure about the liquidity of this bond, for SSB its just one month's notice. this Temasek one will be interesting if only it were say first 2 years fixed at 2.70% + step up (say 4% ?) for remaining 3 years. *ok, time to take my medicine* am usually a bit skeptical when issuers avail tranches to retail investors citing reasons like "allow retail investors to participate for the first time" .... heard that too many times already ... from a credit risk perspective, this issuance is quite good. from a return perspective, this issuance is not very sexy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 Bond issuers go to retail becos they want to cast the net wide wide and get a lot of money..... So the way i look at it, Temasek is anticipating rate rises in the very near term. This translates to higher financing / refinancing cost for them going forward So they quickly sapoo as much liquidity as possible at only 2.74%pa Especially from the ah gong retail market is the easiest Muayhahaha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocy Hypersonic October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 Why rich sovereign fund like Temasek still want more cash - over invested? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 Why rich sovereign fund like Temasek still want more cash - over invested? Cheap money who doesnt want? Look at the whole world, its driven be cheap money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocy Hypersonic October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 Cheap money who doesnt want? Look at the whole world, its driven be cheap money Agreed ......... cheap money But Temasek already has huge SG $$$ reserve and can also tap on CPF, not enough? Issue bond for more investment ....... does it cross the line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic October 17, 2018 Share October 17, 2018 https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/temasek-to-debut-tranche-for-retail-investors-with-planned-offer-of-5?xtor=EREC-16-2%5BST_Newsletter_PM%5D-20181016-%5BTemasek+to+offer+first+retail+bonds+with+planned+issue+of+5_year+notes+for+up+to+%24400m%5D&xts=538291&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ST_Newsletter_PM&utm_term=Temasek+to+offer+first+retail+bonds+with+planned+issue+of+5-year+notes+for+up+to+%24400m&utm_content=16%2F10%2F2018 Looks good.. No lel .... looked like poop to me . Agreed ......... cheap money But Temasek already has huge SG $$$ reserve and can also tap on CPF, not enough? Issue bond for more investment ....... does it cross the line? obviously they running out of cash .......... 输到脱裤 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic October 21, 2018 Share October 21, 2018 (edited) Guys. Want to keep cash on hand for the time being. This SCB esaver if I top up say to 100k in October, in the rest of the months (Nov to March), the whole 100k will also earn interest at the prevailing + bonus rate right? Just want to check if I'm missing anything Edited October 21, 2018 by Lala81 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic October 21, 2018 Share October 21, 2018 Wah work in bank sibei xiong. One stupid deposit must write until so much Formula liao liao. Disclaimer liao liao. Muayhahahahahaha 3 mths should be the maximum anyone should put in FD in todays situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoCharlie Supersonic October 21, 2018 Share October 21, 2018 Guys. Want to keep cash on hand for the time being. This SCB esaver if I top up say to 100k in October, in the rest of the months (Nov to March), the whole 100k will also earn interest at the prevailing + bonus rate right? Just want to check if I'm missing anything Yep, as long as your top up funds not from other SCB accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic October 21, 2018 Share October 21, 2018 Guys. Want to keep cash on hand for the time being. This SCB esaver if I top up say to 100k in October, in the rest of the months (Nov to March), the whole 100k will also earn interest at the prevailing + bonus rate right? Just want to check if I'm missing anything wanna consider SSB ? Higher interest rate and withdrawal is one month's notice. do via internet banking. dun need to open account, fill form etc ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic October 21, 2018 Share October 21, 2018 wanna consider SSB ? Higher interest rate and withdrawal is one month's notice. do via internet banking. dun need to open account, fill form etc ... I already have the existing SCB esaver account. Just need to top up via Internet banking. So actually quite easy lah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 21, 2018 Share October 21, 2018 (edited) $100k locked in for 6-months is too long after Fed raise interest rates in Dec Jan 2019 interest rate should goes up even higher I already have the existing SCB esaver account. Just need to top up via Internet banking. So actually quite easy lah. Edited October 21, 2018 by Wt_know ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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