Manual drivers

[Legendary]

car moving with engine off, the brakes require alot more driver pedal effort to stop the car. So may be unsafe to do so.

 

Turning off the engine with the car in motion is damn dangerous, and just to save a tiny bit of fuel... this is hilarious

[Vinceyeo]

Newbie me will always gradually drop gear till 2nd then when speed is just under 20km/h I will just neutral and brake till needed. I love the engine braking sound but try to keep it under 3.5k rpm at all times. Not good for the clutch i reckon but its fun way to drive keke... At most just change clutch lor no biggie as that is the price I will to pay for fun of driving ^^

[Friendstar]

Prefer to use engine brake(gives u a feeling that the wheels are planted to the ground). Freewheeling gives me no sense of security.

 

 

agreed!

 

engine brake, esp at gear 2... is the way to go

[York]

hmmm...clutch lining & plate...not tt ex on nippon rides....but if conti.....then quite a on the pocket

[Zenson_ong]

prefer to use engine brake...free wheeling will wear the brakes out very fast

[Hermitage]

Shamefully, I dunno much about the technical stuff even though I should 'cos I'm driving an old car! But I've been driving MT cars all my life and whenever I have to touch an auto, it feels like I'm a commuter in my own car! Dunno how anyone, anywhere can stand the feel of AT cars...no offense intended.

[MitsubishiExLancer2010]

LOL. You do so many steps... For me, I just engine brake by using 2nd gear straight away...But now I'm driving auto, started just 1 mth as I just got my car, I'm still finding a way to do engine brake! LOL

 

 

 

Depending on the speed with which I am approaching the lights. If I spot the redlight from far away, obviously the freewheeling method is of choice.

 

But if suddenly realised the lights are gonna go red (especially when there's a redlight cam), then it's shift-down, brake + engine brake, shift down again, brake + engine brake and clutch-in to full stop!! Phew!!

 

[MitsubishiExLancer2010]

May I know what is a double clutch?

 

I don't think free-wheeling in neutral saves fuel at all. In the past I picked up this bad habit from my dad who claimed it saves fuel. But for the past year, I not only downshift but double clutch at the red lights, allowing a quick but smooth gear drop, and did not notice any increase in fuel consumption. Even if there are any actual fuel savings, it is likely to be extremely low and not worth the risk, because as mentioned previously, if you need to take last minute evasive action, you have neither the acceleration nor the engine brake you would have if you stay in gear till you come to a near stop.

 

[Atonchia]

yes you can...kinda like jump starting the engine without battery power.

 

Do that only with a non-power steering car. Because when engine cut off, it doesn't affect the power steering at all.

 

Lose power steering once engine cuts = no control of direction = danger

[Bicolor]

May I know what is a double clutch?

 

Do a search on Google for detailed explanation. Basically shifting to neutral, release the clutch, then revving to raise the RPM (only for downshifting, with upshifting you instead let the RPM drop slightly) before clutching in and engaging the intended gear. Sounds troublesome and time-consuming but with practice it can be done as quickly as a normal gear change. Not strictly necessary since most cars now have synchronized gearboxes, but still very useful to provide a smooth gear change especially if you drastically drop 2 or 3 gears at a time and supposedly prolonging the life of your gearbox.

[Drive_carcar]

Double clutching is not intended as an engine braking procedure, it is in fact redundant nowadays. The concept of double clutch is to match the engine speed to the road speed when you down shift. It has no impact as far as slowing down the vehicle, it just put less stress on the drive train, and give you a smoother ride.

 

 

 

[Bicolor]

Double clutching is not intended as an engine braking procedure, it is in fact redundant nowadays. The concept of double clutch is to match the engine speed to the road speed when you down shift. It has no impact as far as slowing down the vehicle, it just put less stress on the drive train, and give you a smoother ride.

 

Putting less stress on drive train and giving a smoother ride (especially when fetching friends who are prone to motion-sickness around HK mountain roads!) is the intended purpose, it isn't just for the purpose of engine brake, although once you're used to the technique it becomes second nature under any circumstance. I often have to drop two gears at a time not so much for stopping, but more to retain power before entering an uphill bend. I wouldn't say it is redundant, the smooth transition is worth the extra effort (at least in my case). Of course you can hold the clutch longer and release slowly for similar effect but double clutching allows me to release the clutch almost instantly without jerking - when you go through a bend you don't want to be holding the clutch down too long.

[Peaceracer]

Too complicated already! I just stay in gear, apply brake gradually, then depress clutch to switch to neutral just about 10 - 20m (guestimate) away from the final stop. I really don't try and figure out when I depress clutch, because it's all by feel.

 

Hey bro, for civic manual, wats the rpm whn you driving at 90kmh on 5th gear?

 

[Vinceyeo]

hmmm...clutch lining & plate...not tt ex on nippon rides....but if conti.....then quite a on the pocket

 

true true which is why if I ever go conti the warranty of the gearbox will be one of the first items I will look at in fine print before buying!

[MitsubishiExLancer2010]

Thanks.... Sounds like I've been doing that because I used to drive at the 5th gear but when approaching red light and have to stop rather fast, I just drop to the 2nd gear immediately. I thought that's engine brake!

 

 

Do a search on Google for detailed explanation. Basically shifting to neutral, release the clutch, then revving to raise the RPM (only for downshifting, with upshifting you instead let the RPM drop slightly) before clutching in and engaging the intended gear. Sounds troublesome and time-consuming but with practice it can be done as quickly as a normal gear change. Not strictly necessary since most cars now have synchronized gearboxes, but still very useful to provide a smooth gear change especially if you drastically drop 2 or 3 gears at a time and supposedly prolonging the life of your gearbox.

 

[Bicolor]

Thanks.... Sounds like I've been doing that because I used to drive at the 5th gear but when approaching red light and have to stop rather fast, I just drop to the 2nd gear immediately. I thought that's engine brake!

 

That is engine brake alright

If you pause at neutral and rev hard when making such a drastic gear drop, that's double clutching. If not, its simply dropping gear for engine braking.

But it isn't advisable to use engine brake alone, for the simple reason that some blur drivers don't keep distance and need to see brake lights to know you're slowing down.

[MitsubishiExLancer2010]

For those "blur drivers" who tailgate, what I do is that I actually step on the brake lightly a few times to indicate that I'm stopping (due to the red light) or when it's not cos of red light, I do that to "tell" the tailgater that he's tail gating me and I don't like it.

 

By the way, do you happen to know for auto car, when I step on the brake, does it consume fuel? I don't know and cannot remember where I heard this from but I was told that stepping on the brake consumes fuel as well so it's best that we "tap" the brake as light as we can...

 

 

 

That is engine brake alright

If you pause at neutral and rev hard when making such a drastic gear drop, that's double clutching. If not, its simply dropping gear for engine braking.

But it isn't advisable to use engine brake alone, for the simple reason that some blur drivers don't keep distance and need to see brake lights to know you're slowing down.

 

[Bicolor]

By the way, do you happen to know for auto car, when I step on the brake, does it consume fuel? I don't know and cannot remember where I heard this from but I was told that stepping on the brake consumes fuel as well so it's best that we "tap" the brake as light as we can...

 

To be honest, I can't say much because I'm a little ashamed to say that I have never driven an auto car before! No idea about this, but in general bad driving habits like accelerating hard then braking hard worsen fuel consumption. But I wouldn't think you waste much fuel by normal braking.