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Glxfan

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Same can apply for Ralliart wah... remember its a new engine and plateform from Mitsubishi. [sly]

 

hi bro the 4B11 engine should be quite ok lah...if I'm not wrong they have spent a considerable 4 yrs on it before prod...

 

anyway back to topic...I'll choose the ralliart still prefer the young look lol...just my opinion

 

if reflash ecu for this bugger may be able to get evo bhp [laugh]

heard they say it shares the same engine platform as evo but detuned only...look at it this way TS...you're buying an evo 9 hardware with a detuned evo X engine...hmmmm....sounds good imho... [;)]...btw im not from C&C just in case...haha

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Joseph22

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hi bro the 4B11 engine should be quite ok lah...if I'm not wrong they have spent a considerable 4 yrs on it before prod...

 

anyway back to topic...I'll choose the ralliart still prefer the young look lol...just my opinion

 

Lets hope so.

 

if reflash ecu for this bugger may be able to get evo bhp [laugh]

heard they say it shares the same engine platform as evo but detuned only...look at it this way TS...you're buying an evo 9 hardware with a detuned evo X engine...hmmmm....sounds good imho... [;)]...btw im not from C&C just in case...haha

 

Heard that the Drive train of Ralliart is still base on Evo 9.

But frankly, if so much need to be done for Ralliart, i will rather go for Sti for the same price.

 

Also i dont think Jetta GLI will be as unreliable as what ppl say.

 

Saying that, do you think there will be any chance for Mitsubishi to transfer their SST gear box to their regular Lancer EX?

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I think for the Jetta 2.0T or the GLI, reliability problem should not be a major issue as the model is based on the Mk V Golf which has been around since 2004. If there is any major issues, they should have been resolve after 5 years. The issues are now mainly coming from the new MK 6 Golf and Jetta with the 7 speed DSG where there are still nitty gritty issues to be resolve.

 

I think a lot of bros make a very clear comment. If you really want raw power and sporty looks, go for the Ralliart. If you want something fast and less loud, go for the Jetta.

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Blackseal

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Lets hope so.

 

 

 

Heard that the Drive train of Ralliart is still base on Evo 9.

But frankly, if so much need to be done for Ralliart, i will rather go for Sti for the same price.

 

Also i dont think Jetta GLI will be as unreliable as what ppl say.

 

Saying that, do you think there will be any chance for Mitsubishi to transfer their SST gear box to their regular Lancer EX?

 

The SST gearbox will not go to the regular Lancer EX due to higher cost....

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Joseph22

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You have a point there.

Yeah... that is why my friend refuse to take a step up even though he is in the million dollar table.

According to him, going into management, will cost his income to suddenly dip as he have to train ppl and not time for sales....

 

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The SST gearbox will not go to the regular Lancer EX due to higher cost....

 

i wonder what did VW do to keep their DSG cost low...

 

anyway, i was considering Lancer EX 2.0 and Jetta 1.4 Twin Charge for my next Car. my driving style prefer something with a Low End torque.

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DSG gearbox cost is not low for VW. I know the replacement cost for 1 is about 14-15k. I think VW has the economy of scale when it comes to producing DSG gearbox as so many of their models are using it.

 

As for low end torque, I think it will mainly come from TC conti rides as seems like conti TC rides are tuned to have full torque starting at low RPM. The Jetta 1.4TSI you mention have full torque at 1500rpm.

 

But if you getting the Jetta TSI, do look for the model with 6 speed DSG instead of 7 speed as that has more potential for mod. The 7 speed DSG gearbox has a torque handling of 250Nm only. But having said that, the 6 speed DSG gearbox is discontinued in the 1.4TSI Jetta. So you have to get used. New Jetta 1.4TSI are all coming with the 7 speed DSG.

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DSG gearbox cost is not low for VW. I know the replacement cost for 1 is about 14-15k. I think VW has the economy of scale when it comes to producing DSG gearbox as so many of their models are using it.

 

As for low end torque, I think it will mainly come from TC conti rides as seems like conti TC rides are tuned to have full torque starting at low RPM. The Jetta 1.4TSI you mention have full torque at 1500rpm.

 

But if you getting the Jetta TSI, do look for the model with 6 speed DSG instead of 7 speed as that has more potential for mod. The 7 speed DSG gearbox has a torque handling of 250Nm only. But having said that, the 6 speed DSG gearbox is discontinued in the 1.4TSI Jetta. So you have to get used. New Jetta 1.4TSI are all coming with the 7 speed DSG.

 

Okay, noted...

Just wondering... if VW can have mass production for DSG.. why dont Mit Do it? But of couse VW still can supply to Skoda, Audi and all its ,minons brand...

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Dun think there is a face life so soon, VW is clearing Jetta 1.6 09 model as 2010 models come with controls on the steering wheel. So the difference is in the interior of the car.

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Looking at the amount of cars VW group sold with DSG compared to those that Mit sell with SST, I think Mit don't even have 1% of the volume in terms of SST vs DSG production volume.

 

Secondly, the technology of SST is still relatively new in Mitsubishi camp, so I am sure they would like to let the technology stabilize and make improvement before they mass launch a proven SST to most or all their models. Another issue is cost. I think in view of the cost of the SST or DSG, only premium models from the Mitsubishi camp fetching a higher selling price will get it. Its all about marketing their technology and make their premium customer feel happy when they get their Evos with SST technology while the normal Lancers for example only get an conventional autobox or CVT.

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SST has received good reviews although general consensus is still that DSG > SST

 

And jetta is fugly with the distinct "Altis" looks in front...

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SST has received good reviews although general consensus is still that DSG > SST

 

And jetta is fugly with the distinct "Altis" looks in front...

 

But i thought their font look like a Golf?? at least that is what i find when i go down to VW. The one that look like Altis is Skoda

 

If you think Jetta is ugly, then Golf and Soc should be the same right??

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