Help1 1st Gear December 3, 2009 Share December 3, 2009 For Altis, whole of South East Asia is getting old engine. It is not BM decision. It is TMAP decision. then the pricing got to be improve right....the car is made in thailand with an old engine spec, yet BM pricing is ridiculous. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 3, 2009 Share December 3, 2009 then the pricing got to be improve right....the car is made in thailand with an old engine spec, yet BM pricing is ridiculous. As i mentioned previously, TMAP controls the OMV. There is no much room for BM to lower the price. TMAP = Importer BM = Distributor of TMAP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help1 1st Gear December 3, 2009 Share December 3, 2009 As i mentioned previously, TMAP controls the OMV. There is no much room for BM to lower the price. TMAP = Importer BM = Distributor of TMAP well well...is all depends on how much revenue does BM wants to achieve, also many ppl still suckled in by the TOYOTA brand despite the cars that BM brings in are from Thai where cost are lower, QA is unpredictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishcumstrue 6th Gear December 3, 2009 Share December 3, 2009 wah! if it's really so powerful and so good FC who will buy Honda stream, and price also more atractive Cannot compare. RN6 is about 2 years old and 1.8 still on conventional 5 step-gear AT. G2 JDM Wish basic X model already have head-starts with newer engine + proven iCVT + 7 airbags + selectable ECO-drive + VSC... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgsw0skl Neutral Newbie December 3, 2009 Share December 3, 2009 But the gear box is not the crappy CVT ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windchoco 1st Gear December 3, 2009 Share December 3, 2009 But the gear box is not the crappy CVT ... Y CVT crappy? I tot it was the perfect solution for MPVs... where else can u find MPV of this size (new wish) with FC that is >13km/L.. with a lot of hp from a good engine somemore... IMO the drawback was mainly price and PI.. Many ppl can't stomach PI more exp than AD for the same car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windchoco 1st Gear December 3, 2009 Share December 3, 2009 For Altis, whole of South East Asia is getting old engine. It is not BM decision. It is TMAP decision. Cos we are in the same group as Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia We are considered third world. So good things no need to give us, cos it will be too expensive for such market.. =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 3, 2009 Share December 3, 2009 Cos we are in the same group as Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia We are considered third world. So good things no need to give us, cos it will be too expensive for such market.. =) U r rite. Even China got Dual VVT-i. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear December 3, 2009 Author Share December 3, 2009 The spec i quoted is based on Voxy. Only Voxy used both engine. For Wish 1.8L vs Stream 1.8L: Wish: [email protected]; [email protected]; FC: 16km/L; Stream: [email protected]; [email protected]; FC: 15km/L; The main difference btw both car's engine is Wish has Valvematic while Stream has not adopted AVTEC. so the new wish totally wins over Stream in term of Power, Torque and FC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear December 3, 2009 Author Share December 3, 2009 just get the PI wish, if not wrong, PI wish comes with the Valvematic system on top of the usual Dual VVT-i, 7speed somemore...why get an outdated version from BM at the price they offer 7speed, that's cool BM one only 4 speed how come BM always import the low grade products to Singapore? Do they think Singaporen are not rich enough to afford high grade products? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 4, 2009 Share December 4, 2009 7speed, that's cool BM one only 4 speed how come BM always import the low grade products to Singapore? Do they think Singaporen are not rich enough to afford high grade products? Juz forget about the 7 spd. It is useless. Well, u might need to write in to TMAP/TMC to complain about their product strategy. Anyway, taiwan is receiving the same spec as us. So, it could be that this is an export spec. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear December 4, 2009 Share December 4, 2009 7speed, that's cool BM one only 4 speed how come BM always import the low grade products to Singapore? Do they think Singaporen are not rich enough to afford high grade products? No, they import Lexus to cater for those can afford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonsim Clutched December 5, 2009 Share December 5, 2009 7speed, that's cool BM one only 4 speed how come BM always import the low grade products to Singapore? Do they think Singaporen are not rich enough to afford high grade products? Not sg cannot afford but our market simply too small. And I believe 2.0L Corolla do have dual vvti, but only available in Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam and Philippines. As for New Wish, all JDM liao as Thailand stop producing Wish since not selling well in Thailand due to no rear row air-con. Think in our region, only Taiwan and Sg distributor sell Wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King 1st Gear December 21, 2009 Share December 21, 2009 4 speed auto and sell so much more than pi....sweat man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged December 21, 2009 Share December 21, 2009 As i mentioned previously, TMAP controls the OMV. There is no much room for BM to lower the price. TMAP = Importer BM = Distributor of TMAP So you mean it is acceptable for their price and the type of the old model they bring in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 21, 2009 Share December 21, 2009 So you mean it is acceptable for their price and the type of the old model they bring in? Don't like don't buy. Simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silveratenza Neutral Newbie December 21, 2009 Share December 21, 2009 Don't like don't buy. Simple. Yes, this is the best answer. BM/Toyota did not point a gun at those who own a Toyota. It's the consumer's choice. 318i/320i also uses old technology and made in South Africa, but no one seems to care and it's quite common on our roads... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged December 21, 2009 Share December 21, 2009 Don't like don't buy. Simple. Still did not answer my question. Anyway i don't buy TOYOTA but they way you reply. you look like a SE from BM. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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