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Median income in S'pore dips by 1.2%

 

Mon, Nov 30, 2009

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The median income for all employed residents dipped by 1.2 per cent from $2,450 in 2008 to $2,420 in 2009.

Although median monthly income for full-timers rose slightly by half a percentage point (from $2,590 to $2,600), income as a whole fell as part-timers' share of employment rose.

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simply because it's PR that buys it... not locals...

 

for example... the Queensway 4rm hdb that sold for 650k is bought by an Indo....

wa so expensive queensway use to be nobody wants that area now so popular

 

the question is i am confused by the fact the bank i just visited ocbc tells me that even now there are many people applying for bank loans to buy property

it cannot be majority are bought by pr right

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Almost everyone applies for home mortgage loans. Which part is confusing you?

Many people are borrowing to buy property or many people are buying property.

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wa so expensive queensway use to be nobody wants that area now so popular

 

the question is i am confused by the fact the bank i just visited ocbc tells me that even now there are many people applying for bank loans to buy property

it cannot be majority are bought by pr right

 

Why Not?

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Almost everyone applies for home mortgage loans. Which part is confusing you?

Many people are borrowing to buy property or many people are buying property.

you mean there are so many rich people in singapore

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I mean everyone buys their primary residence/property at some point in their life.

It is pretty much a neccessity, i mean comeon, its a roof over your head.

And almost everyone borrows to buy. I dont think an explanation is needed for the need to borrow.

 

500 - 700K hdbs is definitely not the norm. You shouldnt link a record HDB transaction with a median wage figure.

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you mean there are so many rich people in singapore

this sentence, i must agree with you.

 

my friend work in a local bank and has access to account details, she tells me that, in local context there are many many rich people with accounts having millions of dollars horded inside multiple accounts. these are mostly the aged people. otherwise where do you think the bank get so much money from to lend to businesses ?

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I just dont understand the statistics

if median income is like that then how come so many people can afford 500 -700K HDB flats and more frightening million dollars private flat

as i have been to see the silversea at east coast, 2000+sq feet apartment for >4million my god this is obscene

 

Bro...statistics statistics statistics...hehe I used to be a business intelligence consultant (specializing in statistics).

 

I give you an example of 10 person with their monthly income:

 

1. 2000k

2. 2000k

3. 2000k

4. 2000k

5. 2000k

6. 3000k

7. 10000k

8. 20000k

9. 50000k

10. 100000k

 

For the above, the median is 2500k while the mean income is 19300k. So which is a good representation of the above income for that 10 person? I think you have your answers there (for me I will disregard both set of mean/median) [flowerface]

 

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Bro...statistics statistics statistics...hehe I used to be a business intelligence consultant (specializing in statistics).

 

I give you an example of 10 person with their monthly income:

 

1. 2000k

2. 2000k

3. 2000k

4. 2000k

5. 2000k

6. 3000k

7. 10000k

8. 20000k

9. 50000k

10. 100000k

 

For the above, the median is 2500k while the mean income is 19300k. So which is a good representation of the above income for that 10 person? I think you have your answers there (for me I will disregard both set of mean/median) [flowerface]

 

Thats what we do best!

 

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Dun mind I side-track. Pple had been saying low-income, middle-income and high-income. Anyone knows what's the salary range for those low - high income earners? and the basis to derive those range?

Thks.

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Dun mind I side-track. Pple had been saying low-income, middle-income and high-income. Anyone knows what's the salary range for those low - high income earners? and the basis to derive those range?

Thks.

 

Just a wild guess, someone pls provide actual formula...

 

High Income - Greater than mean national income + 1 standard deviation

Low Income - Lower than mean national income - 1 standard deviation

Middle Income - Between high and low.

 

 

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Bro...statistics statistics statistics...hehe I used to be a business intelligence consultant (specializing in statistics).

 

I give you an example of 10 person with their monthly income:

 

1. 2000k

2. 2000k

3. 2000k

4. 2000k

5. 2000k

6. 3000k

7. 10000k

8. 20000k

9. 50000k

10. 100000k

 

For the above, the median is 2500k while the mean income is 19300k. So which is a good representation of the above income for that 10 person? I think you have your answers there (for me I will disregard both set of mean/median) [flowerface]

 

That's the danger of using small sampling, especially when the sample selected deviates so much .. Error will lessen as sample size increase. I wouldn't use these set of sample for any analysis..

 

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Ha...it makes for good reading...things are never as simple as they look...people who use this to shout and justify that Singaporeans are getting poorer are just using an excuse...

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this sentence, i must agree with you.

 

my friend work in a local bank and has access to account details, she tells me that, in local context there are many many rich people with accounts having millions of dollars horded inside multiple accounts. these are mostly the aged people. otherwise where do you think the bank get so much money from to lend to businesses ?

yes it is true then

i also heard that many young people take loan up to 30 years

it is just too long because interest paid would be HUGE

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I just dont understand the statistics

if median income is like that then how come so many people can afford 500 -700K HDB flats and more frightening million dollars private flat

as i have been to see the silversea at east coast, 2000+sq feet apartment for >4million my god this is obscene

 

That is why it is called BUBBLE. For stupid locals who rush for it using their own limited savings, good lucks to them. Recently, seems like the bubble going to burst soon.

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