As I get older, I learnt that LKY had to do what is needed

[City100a]

 

As I get older, I learnt that LKY had to do what is needed

it is for the overall benefit of our society and hence some may loose out (which included me and my family)

there are few policies that dont quite make it but this is life

we cant please everyone

 

looking at our neighbours, we should consider ourselves lucky

we do not have any natural resources

 

i see it this way, LKY and his team lead but the people are the ones that eventually made singapore what it is today

 

lets put our difference aside and move forward together

 

 

i salute our fellow singaporeans

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Comments from a foreign writer Bryant on Mahathir's

> article:- Kaki dalam

> Kasut where he says Chinese is the real master of Malaysia

> .

>

> This article was written without fear or favour, and it is

> up to us to

> digest individually the truth of the matter, especially for

> all

> Malaysians (irrespective of race, colour, creed or

> religion).

>

> To: The highly respected Tun Mahathir,

>

> China is coming up, India is coming up, Vietnam is coming

> up and now even Russia is on the rise. In this flat world

> that is all wired up and regardless whether

> we are Malaysian Malay, Chinese or Indian, and if Malaysia

> does not progress, all of us would become history of this

> country!

>

> Without the Malay, Chinese could not do well in the country

> and without the Chinese, Malay would not do well. Both have

> to work together to bring up Malaysia and mitigate the

> ascute impact that is being brought about by the

> globalisation.

>

> For me, a true leader is someone who has the foresight that

> not only focuses on one particular group in the country but

> take care of the future of everyone. A good leader is

> someone who knows what is the biggest threat the country is

> facing and directs the people to fight off the threat. A

> leader is also someone who is impartial that has the ability

> to promote harmony in the country for a long period of

> time.

>

> UMNO is a political looser that leads the country to

> nowhere. They do not understand what is going on in the

> outside world. They have no clue where Malaysia will

> be in the next 30 years. With the 3 new superpowers, i.e

> India , China and Russia standing tall and high together with

> the USA and the Europe Union, they do not know what kind of

> world it would be and how Malaysia is going to compete and

> share the ever smaller slice of cake of the world economy.

> They only know how to get the Malays to fight with other

> Non-Malays on tiny issues within Malaysia , while these

> races know jolly well that the issues they are fighting are

> trivial and are totally self-satisfying.

>

> UMNO does not give a damn to how the poor Malays are going

> to live in the future and they do not care about the real

> benefits of the poor Malays. They only want the votes from

> them. The NEP is a good evidence on how

> they benefit the cronies, instead of the poor Malays.

> Despite all their despicable acts they are still in the

> power.

>

> The highly respected Tun,

>

> As you are aware, the Malays control the rights to all the

> lands and

> all other natural resources in this country. They control

> all government institutions, GLC and State owned companies.

> The Malays dominate the

> lawmaking process in Malaysia ; The Malays control the

> decision making process in formulating the economy policies.

> The Malays own the largest national assets and the Malays

> are given shares in the public listed

> companies for free. The Malays have also been given all

> kind of priorities when it comes to buying properties,

> awarding of public contracts, tertiary education

> opportunities, awarding of scholarships and even getting a

> job

> in government departments.

>

> With all these privileges and rights enjoyed by the Malays,

> you are saying nothing has been done enough to help the

> Malays to catch up with other races, mainly the Chinese.

> Then what else should Malaysia do to satisfy the Malays? Did

> the Chinese seize or rob anything away from the Malays or

> was all their wealth, a result of their hard work? If

> it is all due to their hard work, why do you say it is

> unfair? I don't quite get your point here.

>

> May I humbly ask you what do you expect the Chinese to do

> if your so-called NEP did not achieve the desired result?

> Would the Malays be happy if the ethnic Chinese in this

> country do any of the followings:

>

> - surrender their assets and hard earned money to the

> Malays unconditionally;

> - not to engage in any business activities;

> - not to score As in all sort of examinations;

> - not to make money that is more than the Malays are

> earning;

> - not to advance to higher education; or

> - renounce their citizenships and go back to China or

> migrate to some other countries?

>

> I am a foreigner but I am surprised that your intention is

> to divide your own country. I think you are mainly targeting

> the Chinese. Frankly, tell us, what do you expect the

> Chinese to do in order to achieve what is so

> called "equality" meant by you?

>

> Tun,

> after all these criticism you have against the present

> government, I feel that you are starting to loose your

> rationality on your arguments. You have run out of good

> reasons to convince us. I guess it could be due to your

> accumulating jealousy of Mr Lee Kuan Yew, your former

> counterpart in Singapore .

>

> But reality is always hard to accept. No matter how, you

> have to accept the fact that he is regarded the Father of

> Singapore but you are not regarded the Father of Malaysia;

> you have to accept the fact that Mr Lee is able to influence

> the government of Singapore until the day he dies but you

> have not been able to influence the government from the

> moment you stepped down as PM.

>

> You must also accept the fact that he is still very popular

> on the world stage and a leader respected by many but you

> are not quite. Because of these jealousies, you are starting

> to accumulate imbalances in yourself

> that leads you to embark on a series of action to

> attack your successors.

> It is very obvious that you are not happy when your

> successors are more popular than you. Is there any good of

> doing that? What is your intention? Can't you take it

> easy?

>

> During your time, you criticised most of the developed

> countries especially the Western Countries out of jealousy

> and after stepping down as PM you criticise every single

> soul remained in the cabinet for not listening to you. When

> will you ever stop criticising any people? Can't you

> respect the decision of others?

>

> Back to your recent blog, is there anything wrong with the

> Chinese in this country?

> Did they seize or rob the money away from the Malays?

>

> Did they have the ability to come out with any policies to

> marginalise the Malays?

> Did they dominate the lawmaking process of this country?

>

> Did they formulate the economy policies in this country?

> Did they control the government departments in this

> country?

>

> Did they control the state owned companies and GLC in this

> country?

> Did they control the country's largest oil companies

> and banks?

>

> You know the answer, right?

>

> Malays are the one who dominate the the lawmaking process

> of this country;

> Malays are the one that formulate the economy policies in

> this country that favours the Malays.

> Malays are the ones that control the government

> departments, state owned companies and GLC.

> Malays are the ones that

> control the funds in this country.

> Malays are also the ones that control the largest oil

> companies and banking industry in this country.

> With all these rights enjoyed by the Malays, what else do

> you want the Chinese to do?

> Surrender their houses and savings and their wealth that

> they earned with their hard work to the Malays? Or ask all

> the Chinese to

> renounce their citizenship and go back to China ?

>

> Have you ever thought of the fact after 30 years of

> implementing NEP, why it does not achieve the desired

> result? Or it does achieve but being denied.

>

> Under the NEP there are a series of policies that favors

> the Malays. If with all these policies, it still does not

> give the Malays what they want, what else do you want the

> Chinese to do? Is the Chinese to be blamed

> because they are too hard working? Or the Malays to be

> blamed because they do not treasure the opportunities have

> given?

>

> You know very well the NEP has been misused and it only

> benefits the cronies... So if you have designed NEP to only

> benefits the cronies, please don't say it is the problem

> of Chinese that NEP does not achieve its

> result. It has nothing to do with the Chinese but NEP and

> the Malay themselves.

>

> This is a globalised world, Chinese and Malays should not

> be fighting against each other because

> Malaysia is competing with other countries. China used to

> be backward and lagging behind Malaysia but now they have

> caught up and have even surpassed Malaysia . Can we ask

> them to slow down their development? If they refuse to

> listen, can we make a complaint to the United Nations that

> China is developing too fast and this is very unfair to

> Malaysia , which adapts a more passive approach? Who gives

> you the right to prevent others from progressing?

>

> Who do you think you are? This is a flat world (Obviously

> Tun did not read the book named "The World is

> Flat"). Don't be so narrow minded to only focus on

> the Chinese or Malay in Malaysia . We should now look at the

> world as a flat world. If Malaysia does not progress, no

> matter we are Malays or Chinese, we would be extinct one

> day!

>

> Have a God-blessed

> day.

>

 

[Dunno]

Take away any privilege of the Malays in Malaysia, they will be in for some big riots and the Chinese and Indians minorities will be the targets of abuse.

 

The very first step in giving the privileges is already wrong. Now there's no way to take it back. They've dug a hole too deep that even if they try to cover it, it will not work as the hole gets deeper every day.

[Gearoil]

Making 'Carry Balls Speech' might get you far if you're in HIS TEAM but making such speech here equates to making yourself look like a fool!

 

No...make that a bloody fool!

[City100a]

  On 11/18/2009 at 6:42 AM, Gearoil said:

Making 'Carry Balls Speech' might get you far if you're in HIS TEAM but making such speech here equates to making yourself look like a fool!

 

No...make that a bloody fool!

i think credit should be given when it is due

it is not whether we like it or not

 

but a fact is a fact

 

 

[Tonyhawk]

im no fan of the man.

 

but like ts said, give credit where its due.

 

he did alot of things right, and i applaud him for that.

 

as for the many other things he did wrong, hopefully somebody is rectifying them....

 

i think its time for him to let go, but strangely, when he does, we'd have lost something. no other leader in se asia commands as much respect as he does. and he's milking it for all its worth, going on visits, giving speeches, generating goodwill.

 

Question is, Is he milking it for himself or for Singapore? personally, its more the latter, but it doesnt even matter. he is trying for the betterment of Singapore, contributing to the greater good. Ask yourself this question: What are you contributing to Singapore? NS? your income tax?

 

I stress again I am not a fan. in fact i am against many of his policies, including his heavy handed ways. but there is no need to hate a man. especially a man who is in his own way working hard for you and your children.

Edited November 18, 2009 by Tonyhawk

[Karoon]

  Quote

looking at our neighbours, we should consider ourselves lucky

we do not have any natural resources

 

i see it this way, LKY and his team lead but the people are the ones that eventually made singapore what it is today

 

our history did not start in the 1960s.

 

back in the 1400s empires fought over this land. johor by chance had it when the brits came and gave it away.

everyone wanted us for our strategic location. the brits turned it from a regional port to an international one.

 

its laughable to pin all the 'success' on one man.

[Scion]

cos the land is called "Malaysia"... that's why the Malays there think they are the one to rule the land...

[Sony]

guess your childhood was only on playing marbles.. took you that long to get this out?

[Galantspeedz]

  On 11/18/2009 at 6:49 AM, City100a said:

i think credit should be given when it is due

it is not whether we like it or not

 

but a fact is a fact

 

The reason why PAP is still the major party is because most old folks understand/appreciate what LKY has done.

 

It is mostly the younger generation that is enjoying the foundation that was first laid by him and take it for granted thus making alot of noise about it.

 

Do note, i am talking about LKY rather than the PAP.

[Galantspeedz]

  On 11/18/2009 at 7:09 AM, Karoon said:

looking at our neighbours, we should consider ourselves lucky

we do not have any natural resources

 

i see it this way, LKY and his team lead but the people are the ones that eventually made singapore what it is today

 

our history did not start in the 1960s.

 

back in the 1400s empires fought over this land. johor by chance had it when the brits came and gave it away.

everyone wanted us for our strategic location. the brits turned it from a regional port to an international one.

 

its laughable to pin all the 'success' on one man.

 

everyone has to contribute to have a successful country but it takes only 1 man to lead them

[Pchmj]

The only thing I don't like is the sudden huge influx of FT which makes me feel irritated everywhere I go, even at my home. Neighbour is one of them and is very noisy, from grandpa to a 2-3 year old grandson.

 

Other than that, it's really incredible for a young nation to become what it is today.

[Joseph22]

  On 11/18/2009 at 7:09 AM, Karoon said:

looking at our neighbours, we should consider ourselves lucky

we do not have any natural resources

 

i see it this way, LKY and his team lead but the people are the ones that eventually made singapore what it is today

 

our history did not start in the 1960s.

 

back in the 1400s empires fought over this land. johor by chance had it when the brits came and gave it away.

everyone wanted us for our strategic location. the brits turned it from a regional port to an international one.

 

its laughable to pin all the 'success' on one man.

 

One look at Malaysia and we can see that indeed our success is due to a vision of 1 man.

In fact in all the major country, it is one man which made the different.

For example china, it take 1 man decision to open up china that push it to where it is now.

For Singapore, That man is LKY no doubt.

 

[Fcw75]

Are you meecar, hishercar, etc?

Edited November 18, 2009 by Fcw75

[City100a]

  On 11/18/2009 at 7:58 AM, Fcw75 said:

Are you meecar, hishercar, etc?

yes i am city100a

 

are you son of mahatiar, grandfather of mahatiar, great grandfather of mahatiar

[Iisterry]

I seriously advise revisiting your history before making such sweeping statements that LKY is responsible for Singapore's success today. It is a grave insult to the rest of the PAP old guards.

 

Perhaps this blog can give some refresher. It is highly pro-government in case you're thinking otherwise.

 

http://singaporegovt.blogspot.com/2006/01/...-of-pap-no.html

 

As for China.

 

Edited November 18, 2009 by Iisterry

[City100a]

  On 11/18/2009 at 8:11 AM, Iisterry said:

I seriously advise revisiting your history before making such sweeping statements that LKY is responsible for Singapore's success today. It is a grave insult to the rest of the PAP old guards.

 

Perhaps this blog can give some refresher. It is highly pro-government in case you're thinking otherwise.

 

http://singaporegovt.blogspot.com/2006/01/...-of-pap-no.html

 

As for China.

i see it this way, LKY and his team lead but the people are the ones that eventually made singapore what it is today

 

[Fcw75]

  On 11/18/2009 at 8:03 AM, City100a said:

yes i am city100a

 

are you son of mahatiar, grandfather of mahatiar, great grandfather of mahatiar

 

Your paragraphing is just too similar. Just can't get away from MCF eh?

 

Btw, who's mahatiar? I only know Mahathir.

[Piyopico]

No one is arguing against giving credit when it is due.

 

People are just upset that accountability does not go along with their clamour for credit and recognition. I can give you a long list of things that he did that has proven to be wrong and WE are still paying the price..............