Why can Mazda 3 not resolve FC and underpowered?

[Axela72]

  On 7/23/2010 at 5:22 PM, Happily1986 said:

Ditto bro. I find that it might be wise to keep harp on the sportiness or whatever sportiness the Mazzie 6 has, as its strong point. Why not bank on the fact that it is riding on a platform shared with the Ford Mondeo? The Mondeo is not a hotcake in the Uk for nothing.

 

 

Huh? Though Mazda6 is using S60 platform but mondeo is using S80 platform. So which one do you thiing is better?

[Axela72]

  On 7/24/2010 at 3:57 PM, Redboy said:

yup, it's okay.

 

Undisputedly, mazda cars give best handling among jap/korean brands.

 

 

That is because it is the only Japaneses Brand that uses conti platform. There rest of the Japanese brand didnt follow suit.

[Redboy]

  On 7/25/2010 at 1:58 AM, Kelpie said:

This is generalization. Handling is very subjective, unless try it on the race track . Top Gear or 5th Gear once tested MX-5 against another equivalent conti and one more Jap brand (don't want to mention brands here, wait you guys "fight" again ) and claimed that its handling is overhyped and not exactly fast.

 

Regards,

 

actually, i think handling can be felt on normal roads itself.

 

I have driven a toyota vios & the difference can be felt.

 

I tried to corner the toyota like a mazda, the result is a very unnatural feel.

 

Another additional thing that makes mazda fun to drive is the feedback from steering wheel.

We can feel the road with mazda but steering feels artificial in toyota.

[Redboy]

  On 7/25/2010 at 3:38 AM, Axela72 said:

That is because it is the only Japaneses Brand that uses conti platform. There rest of the Japanese brand didnt follow suit.

 

actually, nissan latio uses renault platform if I am not wrong.

 

But I don't hear people commenting on its handling.

 

 

 

 

[5936]

platform is important. This is where things are mounted below and above it which made up the car.

 

Different types and grades of things that are placed below such as suspension systems , springs, air pillows, roll bar, tyres, steering, VSC, TC mountings, etc... and above the platform such as types of body shell.

 

All these affect handling. so same platform does not mean same ride feel.

 

Even if it is same model and YOM, but it does make a different from different country.

[Axela72]

  On 7/25/2010 at 4:17 AM, Redboy said:

actually, nissan latio uses renault platform if I am not wrong.

 

But I don't hear people commenting on its handling.

 

 

Maybe Renault chasis is not as robust as Volvo?

 

Some ppls mentioned Volvo feel like a tank but no one say that to Renault

[Vextan]

those who wish for more power in the mazda 3, why not go for the 2 litre version ? asi understand, the price diff is only about 10k or lesser, the fc is actually about the same (as testified by some owners in mazda forum), and road tax is only like 500+ diff per year. this way, you get style, ride and power all in a package.

 

myself, am driving mazda 9.

 

mazda 6 + mazda 3. :)

 

you can tell how much i love mazda. actually, already owning a 6, wanted to check out altis for mrs, but in the end, ended up buying yet another mazda. hmm ...

Edited July 25, 2010 by Vextan

[5936]

Go for the 2L version.

Enough power to get you around.

 

Even more,if you want to use it for many years.

[Tom_kkh]

  On 7/25/2010 at 2:35 PM, 5936 said:

Go for the 2L version.

Enough power to get you around.

 

Even more,if you want to use it for many years.

 

2l? might as well get maz6.

 

I never understand why ppl pay 2l price for a 1.6l body size.

 

I mean if it is a real sport car, nothing to say but maz3?

 

a waste right? paying higher for a smaller body?

 

you pay for the nice body and stability not power.

 

i think most ppl buy maz 3 because of its nice styling than anything... power should not be a consideration if getting a maz3.

 

 

[5936]

In that case I thnk the biggest body and small engine will be the Suzuki APV.

very big body, takes up to 8 person and only 1.6L

Very good vehicle for all purpose application.

[Vextan]

  On 7/26/2010 at 1:40 AM, Tom_kkh said:

2l? might as well get maz6.

 

I never understand why ppl pay 2l price for a 1.6l body size.

 

I mean if it is a real sport car, nothing to say but maz3?

 

a waste right? paying higher for a smaller body?

 

you pay for the nice body and stability not power.

 

i think most ppl buy maz 3 because of its nice styling than anything... power should not be a consideration if getting a maz3.

you know nuts. a m6 cost almost 40k more than a m3, so for those who likes the m3 except for the lack of power, it offers a balanced package and also economical sense than the m6.

Edited July 26, 2010 by Vextan

[Cm_0612]

Just wanna share my 2 cents, for those of you that say that it can achieve 13 to 15 km/L, in my mind, in Spore? I was like WTF!!!! LIAR!!!!

In my mind lah....

I can tell you I can only achieve that kind of FC travelling in NSH constantly at 100km/h in between petrol kiosks.

So no matter what you say about its the driver not the car crap, I wun believe you...

 

btw my mz3 is completely stock.

[Tom_kkh]

  On 7/26/2010 at 1:51 AM, Vextan said:

you know nuts. a m6 cost almost 40k more than a m3, so for those who likes the m3 except for the lack of power, it offers a balanced package and also economical sense than the m6.

 

u r right, i know nuts about the buyers financial status:D if $ is a problem than maz3 2l is good choice than.

 

[Happily1986]

  On 7/25/2010 at 3:36 AM, Axela72 said:

Huh? Though Mazda6 is using S60 platform but mondeo is using S80 platform. So which one do you thiing is better?

 

i prefer S60 to S80

[Happily1986]

Honestly regarding Mazda, my perception and generalisation is that other than the high end models which utilise rotary engines, Mazda sourced straights are generally rough and unrefined. Thats my perspective. Till they start make straights which are smooth.

[Cm_0612]

  On 7/26/2010 at 4:16 AM, Happily1986 said:

Honestly regarding Mazda, my perception and generalisation is that other than the high end models which utilise rotary engines, Mazda sourced straights are generally rough and unrefined. Thats my perspective. Till they start make straights which are smooth.

 

 

Well let's see what SKY-G with SKY-Drive can do...

[Axela72]

  On 7/26/2010 at 1:51 AM, Vextan said:

you know nuts. a m6 cost almost 40k more than a m3, so for those who likes the m3 except for the lack of power, it offers a balanced package and also economical sense than the m6.

 

Ya and the 2L price may not be more ex that the Civic. Why ppls didnt ask why buy a 1.8L or 2L civic instead of a 1.6L one?

[Jchuacl]

It depends on which class of Jap cars that you are comparing to, ie It doesn't mean conti => best platform.

 

From the examples stated in the thread, it is quite clear that fanatic owners either don't know or failed to see that other brands do have their own range of good handling cars.

 

If you are comparing only the bread and butter cars, then the Toyotas, Nissans probably would pale in handling. If you were to pick Toyota Altezza 2L vs Mazda either 3 or 6 2L, then the winner will be clear as Altezza is a specific model with good handling characteristics.

 

If I were to bring in Hondas, Subarus, Mitsubishis, then there is no need to compare as they are proven on the track.

 

Reading this thread reminds me of the joke of a Altis fanatic who claims that the handling of the Altis is the same as a Celica.

 

 

  On 7/25/2010 at 3:38 AM, Axela72 said:

That is because it is the only Japaneses Brand that uses conti platform. There rest of the Japanese brand didnt follow suit.