Jamesc Hypersonic August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 What if teh question is framed as unwed dads? Nice one! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mingsect 5th Gear August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 (edited) Sometime ppl don't have a choice or in a bad situation when the child father are irresponsible. The woman and the child are innocent... our society should be more compassion, it's difficult enough to bring up a child in Spore, somemore single parent. They deserve all the equal benefit a family should had, be it single or not. agreed the question is what causes the unwed mum to be unwed in the first place ? not to sterotype. normally it's from the less well to do familes , or broken familes that can't afford to guide the teen. parents need to work long hrs to earn enough for the family , or taken care by grandparents.. ( these are the families that need more social welface in the first place) the gov can choose to help b4 they grow up or help after they had grown up.. but it have to start somewhere.. if not how can they break out of this vicious cycle ? Edited August 30, 2009 by Mingsect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Turbocharged August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 Yes, as long as the kid is a Singaporean, should qualify, though might not be the whole package. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 I feel unwed/single mum should get some sort of benefits. Often, denying them the benefits, the kids (innocent) will also be affected. As long as the benefits are not excessive eg. unwed/single will still have to work to make ends meet, etc..., I don't see what's wrong. We don't want the people to become unwed/single mum so that they can be fed by the gov eg. in the UK where some young gals got themselves pregnant so that they could live on their own, with the help from the gov. Not all unwed/single mum want to be in that situation by choice....some could have been date-raped by their BFs, have abusive/irresponsible husband, etc..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 I feel should hav a law for those irresponsible fathers to pay maintenance on these kids. Some girls are so loose that they seriously don't know which guy who inseminated her... how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 if unwed mum also got benefits, then the govt will be creating more social problems. I don't think with the benefits, people will go out and get pregnant lah. The money isn't that good...otherwise, we would have seen more married having babies...and the gov wouldn't have said the baby bonus didn't really work.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 Some girls are so loose that they seriously don't know which guy who inseminated her... how? DNA? I agree, we should make the kids dad to bear with the cost too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 must be case to case so that system is not abused. I don't understand how it can be abused..... Would you want to have a kid just to get the benefit? I feel the mother should get the full benefit if she choose to keep and take care of the child. In fact, she needs it more than a normal family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 DNA? I agree, we should make the kids dad to bear with the cost too. That's provided, there's a law that can force the person to donate blood for DNA testing simply just by the victim's suggestion. I don't think that will work... Unless it's rape.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 That's provided, there's a law that can force the person to donate blood for DNA testing simply just by the victim's suggestion. I don't think that will work... Unless it's rape.... Nothing is impossible in s'pore....what's human right? But in this case, where the the result will not help gov make money...nothing will be done. Too much work with no returns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoongf 4th Gear August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 Not all unwed/single mum want to be in that situation by choice....some could have been date-raped by their BFs, have abusive/irresponsible husband, etc..... Abortion is an option. And as far as I know, I dun thnk it is possible to have an unwed mom with an abusive/irresponsible husband. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 What if it's a case of widow (father died)? Then how? I think Singapore needs to be realistic and wake up. We shouldn't keep pushing our so-called "traditional" values when the world is moving along so fast. Otherwise, we'll be left behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoongf 4th Gear August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 What if it's a case of widow (father died)? Then how? As long as the mom got marriage cert, then consider kid got a daddy. The birth cert will not have the father's field as blank. Isn't running to the govt for assistance considered a paternalistic practice? Let's not forget there are tons of NGOs assisting such cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 Abortion is an option. And as far as I know, I dun thnk it is possible to have an unwed mom with an abusive/irresponsible husband. Of course abortion is an option...but not the best solution. It may cause long-term damage to the woman's reproductive system. Also, it may be against their faith, upbringing, etc... As for the abusive/irresponsible husband...I meant to say BF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutsack Clutched August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 So ... which is the best way? Euthanasia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoongf 4th Gear August 30, 2009 Share August 30, 2009 Of course abortion is an option...but not the best solution. It may cause long-term damage to the woman's reproductive system. Also, it may be against their faith, upbringing, etc... As for the abusive/irresponsible husband...I meant to say BF. Assuming the abusive/irresoponsible BF is also the biological father, if I were the woman, I wld really be worried if I want the child. Proceeding with the pregnancy only means a lifelong relationship with such a man. The policy shd stay as a deterence. But if the child is already out, there are other mechanisms to assist the mom and child. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged August 31, 2009 Share August 31, 2009 (edited) Given that this country is now very desperate for live births and increase the fertility rate, it goes without saying that we should be practical (as we always have been) and extend the same maternity benefits to single moms. And that's it. Nothing more than that (because not having a husband around for the child is their own problem, anyway). For those who are squirming at this idea, it helps to think of single, unwed moms like divorcees... not much difference there, is it? In both cases, abandoned or given up by the male partner. The only difference is a ROM cert, just a piece of paper. And maybe SDU/SDS should also include single, unwed moms into their activities and help them find new partners in the hope that someone will stick Some guys DO prefer 'instant' families, save the trouble of bringing up the child from infant stage !! Seriously though, I don't think it's beneficial in the long run to stigmatise single, unwed moms. At the very least, their children are innocent victims. Edited August 31, 2009 by Sosaria Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear August 31, 2009 Share August 31, 2009 I'd like to add that be it for better or for worse, the child is already born to this world. So, why not nurture it? So, the benefit should be fully given to the mum to bring up the children well. It may not happen, but at least with assistance, the chances is higher... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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