So_nice 6th Gear August 2, 2009 Share August 2, 2009 i noe u like cars but 1st, complete ur class 3. drive the car u intend to drive, then start looking for mods that could further improve the ride to ur needs. now we tell u this good tat heavenly also pointless. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboy 1st Gear August 2, 2009 Share August 2, 2009 Guys may i know where to find Nissan Strut bars for Sylphy and cefiro (: keke! drive 50k first, then come here and ask again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karebu 1st Gear August 2, 2009 Share August 2, 2009 (edited) those are sedans. may i add - family sedans. you just came back from clubbing is it? Edited August 2, 2009 by Karebu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefreud Clutched August 3, 2009 Share August 3, 2009 Before you install strut bars and undercarriage bars, you have to first ensure that you have a good set of tyres. This is what I did on my Mit Lancer CS3. I used Bridgestone Potenza RE-001 Adrealin. Thereafter, I installed an Ultra-Racing top strut bar in the engine bay. After installing the latter, I could instantly feel the rigidness on the car body and better handling such as taking corners, road bends and overtaking at high speed. But I feel that I still need one more to gain better feel and further improve the body torsion. I narrowed down to either the front undercarriage 4-point brace bar or rear anti-roll bar. Since I already have the front top strut bar and by adding a front undercarriage 4-point brace bar, I would have placed to much emphasis on the front and nothing at the rear. I then analyse the pros and cons of installing a front undercarriage 4-point brace bar which is bolted onto the lower body chasis and suspension. The problem is that it locks the left, right suspensions with the lower body chasis. If goes over a hump or driving on uneven road surfaces, it is rather uncomfortable and bumpy as both suspensions move together. In addition, one of the tyres might lose contact with the road surfaces as there is no tolerance for individual suspension movement. The situation will be worst when taking cornering at high speed and this may result in either oversteer or understeer. But by installing a rear anti-roll bar or also known as anti-sway bar, it holds the rear left and right suspensions in position and thus overcoming the problem of the rear tyres flexing apart when cornering. So I set my mind on the rear anti-roll bar but in ensuring that I don't make a wrong decision, I wrote to the various strut bars manufacturers to get their suggestions. True enough, all recommended the rear anti-roll bar. I then installed one from Ultra-Racing and 19mm diameter. I have to say that this U shaped rod is not cheap as it costs close to S$300 including installation and not to mention the cost of the front strut bar installed earlier. After installing one on my car last Friday, I could instantly feel the car very stable and rigid. I then try taking cornering at 80km/hr, the car remained parallel with the road and don't feel the bending to one side anymore. When I reached home and told my wife that I spent such money for the rear anti-roll bar, she initially grumbled that I always spent money upgrading my Lancer. I explained to her that I want to feel more kick on the drive so that it is as fun as my other 2 cars, a Passat CC and Porsche Cayman. Last evening after dinner, I took her for a spin along the highways and took bends at 80 to 90km/hr. Initially, she was slightly scared but later got used to it. So 'Route88', I can attest that you will feel alot of differences if you install the front strut bar and rear anti-roll bar. These are the 2 most important components and can assure you that you will not regret. The only pinch is the initial costs to spend on these parts. Lastly, have your tyres changed first to a good grip one and then install the bars later. hi, thanks for your explanation. nice. :) im also driving a cs3. in the lancer forum, pple are selling front struct bars but i dont hear pple selling anti-sway bars. and how abt the lower tie-bar? wat's that and is tat similar to rear struct bar too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeyeo Clutched August 3, 2009 Share August 3, 2009 Hi Bluefreud, The lower tie bar works in the similar manner as the front undercarriage tie bar, the latter as I have explained in details. Though it stiffens the rear suspensions but however, it does not overcome the body roll problem. The rear tie bar will be the 3rd item to install after the front top strut bar and rear anti-roll bar (the latter is also known as anti-sway bar). All the different components serve their own purpose. You may wish to go into one of the websites on strut bars to know the different components and functions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icetrap 2nd Gear August 3, 2009 Share August 3, 2009 hi, thanks for your explanation. nice. :) im also driving a cs3. in the lancer forum, pple are selling front struct bars but i dont hear pple selling anti-sway bars. and how abt the lower tie-bar? wat's that and is tat similar to rear struct bar too? Strut bars are different from anti-sway/roll bars. The main purpose of the strut bars is to re-enforce and reduce the flex of the chassis. anti-roll bars prevent the car from rolling. However, both of them work hand in hand with each other. :) A lower tie bar is ties the lower suspension pick-up points of a vehicle together. It increases chassis rigidity by bracing the left and right lower-control-arm sheet metal mounting points. The lower tie bar is designed to reduce the non-pivoting movement of the control arms and to stiffen the subframe to lessen the distortion of the lower suspension, especially during hard cornering. Thus, as a result, it improves the handling and steering response of the vehicle much like a strut bar. I hope that answers your question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe6057 1st Gear August 7, 2009 Share August 7, 2009 Agree with icetrap. Actually front anti-roll & rear anti roll. there are a diff. For FF car, rear anti-roll bar is important as it reduce oversteer & rear tower bar reduce flex for the back. Most of the driver can counter understeer by just releasing the accelerator. For RF car like cs5, front anti-roll & front struct bar is important. Its helps oversteer. My 2 cents ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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