Strut Bars and maybe coilovers?

[Latioboy]

Guys may i know where to find Nissan Strut bars for Sylphy and cefiro (:

 

keke!

[Rb26dett]

Guys may i know where to find Nissan Strut bars for Sylphy and cefiro (:

 

keke!

 

strut bars is quite a waste of money if you havent done any other handling enhancements on your ride. not sure which company/workshop offers for your model.but try anti sway bars 1st and also replace your ride's bushings to stiffer ones to feel the difference and to eliminate excessive body roll .

for coilovers, pls la dun mess up your ride's comfort cos ultimately your not the one driving it now unless your parents can bear with those loud knocking sound and extremely harsh riding conditions.

[Mzrmazda3]

Guys may i know where to find Nissan Strut bars for Sylphy and cefiro (:

 

keke!

 

Agree with Bro Rb26dett ...

[Windchoco]

ya... i get headache and dizzy sitted in a coilover car.... V big difference with stock suspension.... If you are not the 1 driving it, pls, dun do harm to your parents... lol

[Tuntungturbo]

agreed with Rb26dett...

hehehhe

[Kyojin]

agreed.

 

strut bars deliver the least noticeable performance by itself.

 

first ask yourself what you want and who else is driving the car, what do you use it for, etc. because it can uncomfy very quickly. if you can accept this, then proceed on

 

before anything, upgrade your tyres to the best ones your budget can stretch. all that handling upgrades is useless if you are gonna waste it on soft sidewalls or gripless POS.

 

then i recommend stiffening the chassis first before any other suspension mods. meaning, strut bars front and back, room bar, under carriage bars, fender bars. these, even without the other suspension mods, will give you noticeable improvement in chassis rigidity and hence handling.

 

then you go the next step to add or beef up anti-roll bars

 

followed by coilovers (not just lowering springs)

 

if you don't mind the brand, you can try Ultra Racing from Malaysia. They do decent reinforcement bars:

http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Catalog.asp?...02.0&page=1

[Happily1986]

I think strut bars is really a tertiary mod meaning it only matters when there are pre-existing mods. Furthermore, strut bars serve to minimise flex of the vehicle. Enhancing rigidity is something one would do if you foresee yourself being a heavy track user. in addition, the flexing stress might be transferred to other points of weaknesses in the car and reduce service lifespan. If your goal is to improve road handling and reduce body roll, I think anti-roll or sway bars are e way to go. Plus, go along with tires that are wide profile with low aspect ratio. Just keep e suspension shocks and springs stock. You don't want your parents to have a hard time (literally) in e car do you?

 

 

 

[Bugts]

take me as a example... i'm driving TS. changed prodrive coilover 3mths ago because

i want to make the wheel arc closer to the tire.. changing of lowering spring is not advisable. handling superb i must say. but ride is too hard & noise

to drive!! tire profile i using 205/50/16 ZE912.

[Mikeyeo]

Guys may i know where to find Nissan Strut bars for Sylphy and cefiro (:

 

keke!

 

Hi Latioboy, I do not know whether the cars you mentioned are installed with good grip tyres. Personally, I have good grip tyres, a single piece rigis front strut bar across the chasis and front under carriage bar on one of my cars. Both the tyres and strut bars compliment one another.

 

Before installing the strut bars and while taking cornering at road bends, the car body tends to roll to one side and my wife always asked me to slow down the speed because she could feel herself slanting to one side.

 

But after installing the strut bars, I could take cornering along road bends at 80 km/hr and the car body is still very rigid and no body roll.

 

Now when she sits need to me and I take bends at 70 to 80km/hr, she doesn't complaint anymore because of the car's rigidity and stability.

 

The bars that I installed are made in Malaysia and is very popularly used by racers at the Sepang racing circuit Again, the tyres grip is also very important.

 

There are so many brands of strut bars in the local market with varying price differences. From my personal view after careful study of different brands of strut bars from the website, it does not necessary means that expensive ones deliver better results.

 

You also need to understand the characteristics between one made of a single solid piece and the other with hinges at both ends. If you happen to see the engine compartment of racing and drifting cars, they are always (if I am not wrong cos I've seen many myself) installed with a single solid piece.

 

The single piece ones may not be as pleasing looking as those with hinges but the former is more rigid, sturdy, stronger and safer in the event of an unexpected front or side impact. My other car which is a sports car came stock with a single piece of strut bar across the chasis and all the essential front and rear struts.

 

You may go into the website www.sgcarmart.com.sg and find accessory shops that sell strut bars. Pls note that the performance rather than outlook is more critical when choosing strut bar.

 

I hope that the above will to a certain extent help you is choosing the strut bars.

 

Lastly, as some members have mentioned about foregoing the installation of lower coilover sprints, I agree with their viewpoints. The rationale is that whether one will to have low profiled tyres or not, the ride of the car will be very stiff and bumpy and the passengers will feel very uncomfortable if the vehicle will to be installed with a set of lower coilover sprintst but not for the driver.

[Yuan]

In my opinion, strut bar with stock suspension helps with daily driving.

 

If you do sharp and fast cornering and handling is your priority, then can consider coils. Get something that is height and damper adjustable.

[Route88]

I'm not sure,but some of the cars with underbrace strut, owner claim to have better handling.

Anyone can conform?

[Pocus]

before you do the bars....do the tyres first.....I've learn my lesson never save money on sucky tires after my encounter with a certain jewellery shop.

 

With all the bodyroll reduced, the force don't just suddenly disappear, a whole lot of them are transferred to the tyres so make sure you get one that can absorb that punishment... Even a tyre with a hard sidewall can feel the difference in cornering.

 

 

[Latioboy]

MikeYeo, thanks for ur long and valuable reply

 

Yeaps,. I am never a person who goes for cheap tyres, as mentioned, I'm on RE001 for both cars. I can't say much for them as I can't drive legally yet, thus i cant say anything. But i'm looking at changing to Eagle F1 Assymetrics. (:

But there's a problem as assymetrics are only for low profile. and since i'm on 17 inch for cefiro and 16 inch for sylphy, my profile is only 50/55. Assymetrics dun have 50/55. i think only 45 and below. So yeah.

[Rakrohk]

Hi all,

 

Noob here. Glad to meet everyone and seek your advice

 

I am thinking of getting a anti-roll bar for my Picnic instead of strut bar as suggested. Picnic then to sway. Should I also consider getting front/rear lower arm bar, Rear tie bar?

 

Any recommended branded of anti-roll bar? Ultra-Racing ok?

[Yuan]

Hi all,

 

Noob here. Glad to meet everyone and seek your advice

 

I am thinking of getting a anti-roll bar for my Picnic instead of strut bar as suggested. Picnic then to sway. Should I also consider getting front/rear lower arm bar, Rear tie bar?

 

Any recommended branded of anti-roll bar? Ultra-Racing ok?

 

Try the anti roll bar first. Then if you got time and money, try to feel the difference with each bar installed to the various part of your picnic. You will learn to appreciate the difference.

 

For brands,I go with Cusco and Summit. For strut bars, make sure they are specific for your ride.

[Yuan]

before you do the bars....do the tyres first.....I've learn my lesson never save money on sucky tires after my encounter with a certain jewellery shop.

 

With all the bodyroll reduced, the force don't just suddenly disappear, a whole lot of them are transferred to the tyres so make sure you get one that can absorb that punishment... Even a tyre with a hard sidewall can feel the difference in cornering.

 

I agree with you. I did my bars first before changing my tires. I then change into a better set of tires and road control and touch is better.

[Mikeyeo]

I'm not sure,but some of the cars with underbrace strut, owner claim to have better handling.

Anyone can conform?

 

 

Before you install strut bars and undercarriage bars, you have to first ensure that you have a good set of tyres. This is what I did on my Mit Lancer CS3. I used Bridgestone Potenza RE-001 Adrealin. Thereafter, I installed an Ultra-Racing top strut bar in the engine bay. After installing the latter, I could instantly feel the rigidness on the car body and better handling such as taking corners, road bends and overtaking at high speed.

 

But I feel that I still need one more to gain better feel and further improve the body torsion. I narrowed down to either the front undercarriage 4-point brace bar or rear anti-roll bar.

 

Since I already have the front top strut bar and by adding a front undercarriage 4-point brace bar, I would have placed to much emphasis on the front and nothing at the rear. I then analyse the pros and cons of installing a front undercarriage 4-point brace bar which is bolted onto the lower body chasis and suspension.

 

The problem is that it locks the left, right suspensions with the lower body chasis. If goes over a hump or driving on uneven road surfaces, it is rather uncomfortable and bumpy as both suspensions move together.

 

In addition, one of the tyres might lose contact with the road surfaces as there is no tolerance for individual suspension movement. The situation will be worst when taking cornering at high speed and this may result in either oversteer or understeer.

 

But by installing a rear anti-roll bar or also known as anti-sway bar, it holds the rear left and right suspensions in position and thus overcoming the problem of the rear tyres flexing apart when cornering. So I set my mind on the rear anti-roll bar but in ensuring that I don't make a wrong decision, I wrote to the various strut bars manufacturers to get their suggestions.

 

True enough, all recommended the rear anti-roll bar. I then installed one from Ultra-Racing and 19mm diameter. I have to say that this U shaped rod is not cheap as it costs close to S$300 including installation and not to mention the cost of the front strut bar installed earlier.

 

After installing one on my car last Friday, I could instantly feel the car very stable and rigid. I then try taking cornering at 80km/hr, the car remained parallel with the road and don't feel the bending to one side anymore.

 

When I reached home and told my wife that I spent such money for the rear anti-roll bar, she initially grumbled that I always spent money upgrading my Lancer. I explained to her that I want to feel more kick on the drive so that it is as fun as my other 2 cars, a Passat CC and Porsche Cayman.

 

Last evening after dinner, I took her for a spin along the highways and took bends at 80 to 90km/hr. Initially, she was slightly scared but later got used to it.

 

So 'Route88', I can attest that you will feel alot of differences if you install the front strut bar and rear anti-roll bar. These are the 2 most important components and can assure you that you will not regret. The only pinch is the initial costs to spend on these parts.

 

Lastly, have your tyres changed first to a good grip one and then install the bars later.

 

 

[Mikeyeo]

MikeYeo, thanks for ur long and valuable reply

 

Yeaps,. I am never a person who goes for cheap tyres, as mentioned, I'm on RE001 for both cars. I can't say much for them as I can't drive legally yet, thus i cant say anything. But i'm looking at changing to Eagle F1 Assymetrics. (:

But there's a problem as assymetrics are only for low profile. and since i'm on 17 inch for cefiro and 16 inch for sylphy, my profile is only 50/55. Assymetrics dun have 50/55. i think only 45 and below. So yeah.

 

 

If you or your parents want to have the tyres changed to another brand including the rims, it's better to trade them to the tyre shop now which will fetch a higher price and than top up the difference for the new rims and tyres.

 

Should you want to get a higher trade-in value, you may want to contact a tyre shop boss Joseph hp no:96395227 and mention my name. He is the one that I patronised and posted an article in this forum sometime end of last year on his good service and reasonably good price tyres.