Should I Upgrade from 16" to 17" rims?

[Enduro25]

as some of the bro mention, upgrade to 17inch may not increased ur FC if u chose a light weight 17inch rim..

[Shull]

  On 6/28/2009 at 1:06 PM, Sazali said:

I am collecting my new Nissan Sylphy 2009 2.0L next week, thinking of trading in the original 16"rims and tyres 195/60/16" for 17" rims with tyres 205/50/17?

 

Please share your experience in changing from 16 to 17 rims? How it effecfts fuel consumption, comfort, and road-holding? Thank you...

 

try to go for 215/50/17..coz 205 on 17" is abit odd sized and the tires are more expensive than 215 on 17"..

 

i'm driving 2L Civic FD and getting about 10km/l on stock rims(205/55/R16)..when i collected my car, i though of going to 17"..but after reading around, i realised that if the 17" are not those light weight rims, then it will definitely result in increased FC. But light weight rims cost alot more than normal rims..so in the end, it a case of penny wise but pound foolish..esp when i don't go track and therefore, has no need for high performance tires..

Edited June 29, 2009 by Shull

[Sir8]

Sylphy, is not a 350Z. Just 16" will do. I would rather spend the $$ on the best tires (up to affordability and preferences).

 

 

  On 6/28/2009 at 1:06 PM, Sazali said:

I am collecting my new Nissan Sylphy 2009 2.0L next week, thinking of trading in the original 16"rims and tyres 195/60/16" for 17" rims with tyres 205/50/17?

 

Please share your experience in changing from 16 to 17 rims? How it effecfts fuel consumption, comfort, and road-holding? Thank you...

 

[Bencheong]

ya i change from 16" 205/60-16 to 17" 215/55-17 the FC increase about 3-5%, pick up slightly slower, braking feel same, cornering more stable, high speed ( above 110 km/h ) more zai!

 

[Billcoke]

  On 6/28/2009 at 1:06 PM, Sazali said:

I am collecting my new Nissan Sylphy 2009 2.0L next week, thinking of trading in the original 16"rims and tyres 195/60/16" for 17" rims with tyres 205/50/17?

 

Please share your experience in changing from 16 to 17 rims? How it effecfts fuel consumption, comfort, and road-holding? Thank you...

 

With 17 rims, your car can use low profile tyres. Low profile tyres provides crisper handling and positive feedback to the steering wheel, but also give a rougher ride, which will send every bumps on the road directly to the suspension. For example, we are using 17 BBS rims with low profile tyres 245/45/17, which 45 is a code, the smaller the number, the shorter the side walls.

 

For better performance, it is better to get those light weight alloy rims (eg: BBS) to mimimise reduce unsprung weight and rolling resistance.

[Sazali]

  On 6/29/2009 at 6:01 PM, Bencheong said:

ya i change from 16" 205/60-16 to 17" 215/55-17 the FC increase about 3-5%, pick up slightly slower, braking feel same, cornering more stable, high speed ( above 110 km/h ) more zai!

 

 

 

r u driving sylphy 2.0? what type of 17'rims and tyres are u using?

[Felipe]

For road use, the increase in FC, dip in acceleration are all very slight only since its only a plus one upgrade. its basically looks, thats about it. ride will also be a bit harsher. for me, i always prefer stock or whatever the car comes with. the money spent can be used to maintain the car and petrol plus tyres will be more ex. but u can offset this by getting asia made tyres. if really want to change and if you got storage space, i suggest keeping yr 16 after changing. and if u don't like the ride or whatever, can always go back to 16 agn.

[Felipe]

  On 6/29/2009 at 2:32 PM, Rtth84 said:

bigger rims will cause poorer handling unless the bigger ones are lighter than the smaller ones. changing to UHP tires will improve handling.

 

actually its the weight of the rims and the type of tires that affect fuel consumption, not the size of the rims.

 

but wider tyres will increase rolling resistance, leading to poorer fc and acceleration

[Hermitage]

Sylphy's a nice car to do up VIP style! Slam 'er low with 18" blingers, shaved exterior and blacked-out windows! No need to go the conti route in search for your wheels, stay Jap but stick to the reputable brands such as RAYS, 5Zigen, SSR, Enkei, Racing Hart etc...

 

I know the temptation will be to save cash and go for those Taiwanese/Korean wheels at a fraction of the price, but in this case, the expression 'you pay peanuts, you'll get monkeys' rings especially true. Besides, I don't think you'd wanna ruin your made-in-japan car with a set of anything less than JDM wheels right? But be prepared to fork out around $5k for a set of authentic wheels & tyres of the land of the rising sun.

 

Banzai!!

[Edca]

  On 6/30/2009 at 2:44 PM, Felipe said:

For road use, the increase in FC, dip in acceleration are all very slight only since its only a plus one upgrade. its basically looks, thats about it. ride will also be a bit harsher. for me, i always prefer stock or whatever the car comes with. the money spent can be used to maintain the car and petrol plus tyres will be more ex. but u can offset this by getting asia made tyres. if really want to change and if you got storage space, i suggest keeping yr 16 after changing. and if u don't like the ride or whatever, can always go back to 16 agn.

 

just keep the 16" and change a new set of good and better tyres. Good tyres can save your life at times..

[My_Motor]

a bit confuse what size to get as I have booked Cerato Forte 2.0, stock 215/45R17 but Forte 1.6 stock 205/55R16. Is it advisable to downgrade to 205/55R16 to have good FC, cheaper tyres replacement, less bumpy ?

to trade-in 215/45R17 tyres and rims, how must can I get ? Is it Korean stock wheels are heavier than normal wheels ? Sorry to ask this because don't know much about these, present my old car wheel is 185/60R14

[Felipe]

just sharing my view here. Kia's rims should be the heavy type, not the forged ones. Firstly, is 16 rims stock for the 2L? The dealer should have that info. i feel you shouldn't downgrade as yours is a 2L so performance is not compromised. Next, it comes with the car so why not just take it. i think it's likely the stock is a 16. trading in will not fetch you much. You may want to try some Kia owners for a better rate. But still it's best if the agent can swap to 16 for you as rims are new.

[Friendstar]

  On 6/30/2009 at 4:48 PM, Felipe said:

just sharing my view here. Kia's rims should be the heavy type, not the forged ones. Firstly, is 16 rims stock for the 2L? The dealer should have that info. i feel you shouldn't downgrade as yours is a 2L so performance is not compromised. Next, it comes with the car so why not just take it. i think it's likely the stock is a 16. trading in will not fetch you much. You may want to try some Kia owners for a better rate. But still it's best if the agent can swap to 16 for you as rims are new.

 

 

which AD will offer forged stock rims?

 

i mean the common ADs

[Hermitage]

  On 6/30/2009 at 4:21 PM, My_Motor said:

a bit confuse what size to get as I have booked Cerato Forte 2.0, stock 215/45R17 but Forte 1.6 stock 205/55R16. Is it advisable to downgrade to 205/55R16 to have good FC, cheaper tyres replacement, less bumpy ?

to trade-in 215/45R17 tyres and rims, how must can I get ? Is it Korean stock wheels are heavier than normal wheels ? Sorry to ask this because don't know much about these, present my old car wheel is 185/60R14

 

Congrats on your new 2.0L ride! Please do not degrade your brand new ride & yourself by downgrading in the name of FC etc... Mate, you're not going to save much this way!

 

Keep 'em 17"s on, your 2.0L has more than enough power to overcome the frictional resistance of larger wheels so FC won't be affected. Go do a simple price check, the diff between 16" & 17" tyres is not that great, and how often do you need to change tyres? And I don't think 16" wheels would make for a more comfortable ride. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the increased power from your 2 litre block, as opposed to the 1.6L, actually requires bigger rims & tyres in order to get ya safely from A to B. 'Cos you'd need better stability and handling at high speeds which is exactly what those bigger shoes are for So keep 'em mate!!

 

[Felipe]

  On 6/30/2009 at 4:51 PM, Friendstar said:

which AD will offer forged stock rims?

 

i mean the common ADs

 

yea i doubt it too. so Kia rims should be just as heavy as any normal common ones supplied by AD.

[Felipe]

  On 6/30/2009 at 4:57 PM, Hermitage said:

Congrats on your new 2.0L ride! Please do not degrade your brand new ride & yourself by downgrading in the name of FC etc... Mate, you're not going to save much this way!

 

Keep 'em 17"s on, your 2.0L has more than enough power to overcome the frictional resistance of larger wheels so FC won't be affected. Go do a simple price check, the diff between 16" & 17" tyres is not that great, and how often do you need to change tyres? And I don't think 16" wheels would make for a more comfortable ride. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the increased power from your 2 litre block, as opposed to the 1.6L, actually requires bigger rims & tyres in order to get ya safely from A to B. 'Cos you'd need better stability and handling at high speeds which is exactly what those bigger shoes are for So keep 'em mate!!

 

most 2L cars do well enough on 16. Even merc e class run on 16. As long as the car manual says stock is 16, rest assured it's good and safe enough. It's also not always true bigger wheels handle better. Imagine an athlete wearing oversized shoes. it's all about getting a good balance. The difference in price between 16 & 17 is about $200 per set. its ok but if kena punctured, then that can hurt a bit.

[Felipe]

problem is when he wants to change then, he has to fork out money. its nice to keep the 17. but if u do want to change, then don't look back again and incur cost. so make either decision and stick with it. tats my take on it.

[Tigershark1976]

Most Jap/ Korean cars before 2004 was equip with

 

1) below 1.3L= 13 or 14 inches rims

2) 1.3L to 1.6L= 14 or 15 inches rims

3) 1.6L to 2.0L = 15 to 16 inches rims