Who thinks the new Mazda3 pricing is a joke ?

[Leeshunda100]

In my opinion, as long as Honda can't even win a single F1 race with their engine before, they should never be justifiable as premium with their vtec engine.

 

,i agree with u... at least T fare better in F1 but h did better than force India

[Picanto]

Mr Picanto last I checked you do not represent Singapore car owners. So dont marginalize my already limited rights as a Singaporean thanks. In my own personal opinion H brand to me is just to con those wannabe executives who thinks that H is a great brand and should command so called Premiums.

 

of course you are entitled to your own opinions.

 

[Quirky_ster]

if like that, since the base of the mazda 3 is also the base of a blue oval focus, why not get the blue oval since blue oval owns part of mazda and it looks kinda good as well..

 

well sure why not.. provided those who booked the current M3 feels that the Focus is better ( in their personal taste ) and makes them look better in it.

 

There's no problem with that... it's just the advert and the pricing.. which I doubt any of those in this thread will actually go ahead and pen down their cheque for it...

 

I will not for sure... what more the M5 or the 6.. I'm better off with Opel/Skoda/VW/Peugeot... but give Mazda to me for free.. I will be very happy to be in it...

 

it all boils down to personal choice... no matter how "clown" we feel the pricing is, so long there's ppl buying it.. then business is as usual for the agent... As for us, we are just "simply clever" to fall for that..

[Delusionmirage]

well sure why not.. provided those who booked the current M3 feels that the Focus is better ( in their personal taste ) and makes them look better in it.

 

There's no problem with that... it's just the advert and the pricing.. which I doubt any of those in this thread will actually go ahead and pen down their cheque for it...

 

I will not for sure... what more the M5 or the 6.. I'm better off with Opel/Skoda/VW/Peugeot... but give Mazda to me for free.. I will be very happy to be in it...

 

it all boils down to personal choice... no matter how "clown" we feel the pricing is, so long there's ppl buying it.. then business is as usual for the agent... As for us, we are just "simply clever" to fall for that..

 

 

yea true hahaha

[Leepee]

Its funny when people talk about RWD.

 

Last time datsun 100A, 120Y also RWD. So are those good drivers car too?

 

 

 

[Golfballstick]

Its funny when people talk about RWD.

 

Last time datsun 100A, 120Y also RWD. So are those good drivers car too?

 

u said it "last time"

 

Sorry i was still very young when datsun is around.

Edited May 7, 2009 by Golfballstick

[Axela72]

Huh, your reasoning is warped. Anyways, Honda is and will never be seen as a premium brand. It's just that locally, it's seen as a better and more reliable car than Mazda.

 

And have you tried a vtec engine before? It's power delivery is probably unmatched among NA cars, without compromising too much on fuel consumption. To me, it's a darn good engine that is well worth the price.

 

 

Back to square again. VTEC and FC. If we are not going to race in singapore and got money to buy petrol, what is better off from H badge car which demand higher price than it's peer?

 

Most non driver (which consist the majority in S'pore) who know nothing about car judge their liking of the car based on nake eyes not by spec. So tell me on the aesthetics aspect, what made H badge fan to declare H badge as premium which are the only Brand can demand such a high price?

[Golfballstick]

You drive the 4 pot BMW before? Not talking about 0-100km/h, my cefiro 2.3 V6 run lost with the bmw 520 4 pot last week on the NS highway.

 

Neither do i believe this is truth. The accord Ivtec? Their pickup simply too slow compare to my cefiro in the highway.

 

I had driven a old cefiro (2 gen ago), the response from the transmission was like....OMG...not sure how much has changed. Nevertheless, nissan V6 is a respectable engine.

 

If I-vtec 6 pots is so inferior to a similar spec jap engine then that team of engineer need to go back to the drawing board.

 

[Notsogoodman]

Oh, F1 being the mother of all competitive races do not only set rules on engine! Take for instance the diffuser employed by the Brawn team in the current F1 season, the big teams are working OT to incorporate this into their car, correct me for inaccuracy pls.

 

according to F1 commentators, the Mercedes engine Brawn is using is currently the most powerful one in F1 (they are no longer using Honda's engine). Of course, the twin diffuser helps and other aerodynamics help. That's why you can see that Mclaren is catching up fast incorporating the twin diffuser design (the engine was good to begin with).

 

So you just answered yourself, F1 is not just about engine. So our cars on the road is? At times, people tend to pay too much attention to engine specs. There are aerodynamics involved, weight issues. It's just like if I tell you I can bench press 120kg, you think I am strong? I just forgot to tell you I weigh 150kg. A 80kg guy can bench press 100kg, isn't he stronger?

[Ralli_lancer]

I went to the mazda showroom over last weekend and when I look at the pricelist of the new Mazda 3, I turn around and walk out.... ridiculously priced.

[Golfballstick]

according to F1 commentators, the Mercedes engine Brawn is using is currently the most powerful one in F1 (they are no longer using Honda's engine). Of course, the twin diffuser helps and other aerodynamics help. That's why you can see that Mclaren is catching up fast incorporating the twin diffuser design (the engine was good to begin with).

 

So you just answered yourself, F1 is not just about engine. So our cars on the road is? At times, people tend to pay too much attention to engine specs. There are aerodynamics involved, weight issues. It's just like if I tell you I can bench press 120kg, you think I am strong? I just forgot to tell you I weigh 150kg. A 80kg guy can bench press 100kg, isn't he stronger?

 

Yes Brawn using Merc engine that y i compare them with the big teams. Totally agree that F1 is more than just engine that y credits must go to Brawn team for spotting the hole in F1 rule book and put in a diffuser.

[Davedesouza]

My cousin was all ga-ga over the Mazda 3... but after looking at the price, he went soft... at this price can buy Conti cars already with more safety, style and performance but minus the gadgets and fancies of the mazda 3.

 

Subaru has been experiencing slow sales too lately.. dun see many new Imprezas... maybe coz it lost it MAN-LY appeal. But the STi with the wide body is cool...

[Axela72]

My cousin was all ga-ga over the Mazda 3... but after looking at the price, he went soft... at this price can buy Conti cars already with more safety, style and performance but minus the gadgets and fancies of the mazda 3.

 

Subaru has been experiencing slow sales too lately.. dun see many new Imprezas... maybe coz it lost it MAN-LY appeal. But the STi with the wide body is cool...

 

 

Err..... may I know which Conti car is selling at 67k which is better in safety, style and performance right now thsn the new Mazda 3?

[Zippaboy]

Err..... may I know which Conti car is selling at 67k which is better in safety, style and performance right now thsn the new Mazda 3?

 

I thought the new mazda 3 is 76-79k?

 

 

for that price range , i will rather get Peugeot 207, 308 or a Volkswagen Jetta.

maybe a Ford Fiesta or Focus?

Skoda Superb?

 

 

 

 

[Renesis76]

imo, the car design itself is a joke

rather pay abit more for a golf

german quality

 

 

I mean come on... 76K ?

 

I can buy almost 2

 

Hyundai Advante

Kia Forte

 

or I also can settle for one MIJ car... Civic, LancerEX

 

1.6L at 105hp and 144Nm, thats Ah-Gong technology... newer 1.6L are running at least 120+hp

 

[Axela72]

There is a link from one of the talk above showing the actual price list is 67k for the basis model. thought u have seen the actual pricelist when visiting MM.

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showto...637598&st=0

 

 

Next:

 

You mean Peugeot 207, 308 is now at 60+k and they are better in safety, style and performance than the new Mazda? You based on what justification?

 

Volkswagen Jetta is still more ex than Mazda 3. Furthermore, the 73.8k is a promotion price for limited period only.

 

Ford Fiesta or Focus? Fiesta is out of question while Focus in par with the old mazda 3.

 

Skoda Superb is 95 to 110k. It is so much expensive than Mazda 3.

 

 

So end of the day, it can see that ppls only based on blind feeling (which have already imparted in the minded to condem M but not H badge) but without concrete evidence/justification.

Edited May 7, 2009 by Axela72

[Quirky_ster]

Err..... may I know which Conti car is selling at 67k which is better in safety, style and performance right now thsn the new Mazda 3?

 

Opel Astra Sedan 1.8.. less than 68K +/-...

[Axela72]

Opel Astra Sedan 1.8.. less than 68K +/-...

 

That is only price. Does it having better in safety, style and performance ? Pls also take note that Opel is not a prelauch new car. I presume during their inital launch time, they might be higher than 68k

Edited May 7, 2009 by Axela72