Are Jap cars Milo tin cans?

[Comnao]

the driver should be grateful the goon din turn around and say that the driver langgah into him

 

this is one case of suck kok and die

[Gadgeter]

bang onto someone n e 1st thing he worry is e dent on his stupid bonnet....wat kind of human is tis

 

 

Early morning still blur blur? read properly lah...

[Tas0577]

Was browsing thru Stomp and saw the following article. Makes me wonder if Jap cars really have the qualities of tin cans (as in easily dented). Do Contis have such qualities too or only slightly better? Would the impact be different if the youths have fell on a Conti like say Mini Cooper or Renault Clio?

 

 

Stomp

 

STOMPer Kamper said a group of unruly youths were dashing across a traffic junction at Wheelock Place, when two of them fell onto his car, causing a huge dent on the bonnet.

 

He said:

 

"Everyone's heard of pedestrian being the subject of a hit and run, how about the other way around?

 

"My car was stationary beside wheelock place waiting for the main junction to turn green so I can proceed straight towards centerpoint, the time was about 2200 on 17th April.

 

"I was the third car from the front and the second row from the right of the road when all of a sudden, around six male youths below the age of 20 whom looked like they just enlisted in national service not too long ago, given their shaven hair, were dashing into the road, running between the gaps of the cars as though they were playing some dangerous game.

 

"Unfortunately, one of the boys collided with another who were at the other side of the car in front of me and they both fell onto my bonnet.

 

"Imagine the shock I had from the unexpected impact from youngsters running in the middle of the road under such heavy traffic! By the time I regain my senses they have already ran past my car.

 

"I was alone in my car and did not considered leaving my car in front of rows of traffic so I can give chase as it is highly unlikely I can catch them anyway given their ample headstart.

 

"Nonetheless, the impact dented my car's bonnet, which is barely six months old.

 

"I tried to made a police report only to have it be told that there is nothing that can be done, which is pretty much to my expectations anyway.

 

"I thought that LTA could be of some assistance since they may have a junction camera installed that might have captured that incident, but the hotline wasn't useful as well.

 

"So at the end of the day I am forced to bare the cost of repairs for a collision that was completely not my fault.

 

"There were many witnesses to this incident as the area outside wheelock place was rather crowded and there are many cars around me, I can only pray for the minute hope that a fellow stomper bore witness to this incident and have some knowledge to their identity.

 

"Such delinquents should be taught a lesson as they pose a danger to themselves and the people around them."

 

Agree, it applies to all Toyota & Honda cars particularly like Axio and Jazz which gives better consumption due to light body weight and thinner body metal used.

 

[Pyramid_sg]

Tanks?? I beg to differ.

Crash Test Old school Volvo vs Renault Modus

 

Hi Watwheels. The old school Volvo then didn't have the same safety features as the newer Renault Modus. It had probably just had SIPS and didn't have crumple zones. The newer Renault Modus had a Euro NCAP 5 rating. Hence the better result on the Renault Modus. I think the newer Volvos will preform much better in the same crash test. EG Volvo V50 vs Renault Modus.

 

Generally, I think Conti cars have a harder shell then Jap cars. Its a trade off because Conti cars then are generally heavier and consume more fuel. Jap cars are lighter and consume less.

 

 

 

[Acieed]

 

The heavier + harder = safer idea is seriously outdated. In fact, they pose more danger to both passengers and pedestrians.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumple_zone

 

 

[Mustank]

but many don believe, i saw some mpv even put bull bar behind

[Iziz]

Great to know tat e bros here have e correct idea. U have no idea how many ppl out there r walking wif e "harder e better" mentality

[Tkseah]

The heavier + harder = safer idea is seriously outdated. In fact, they pose more danger to both passengers and pedestrians.

 

In this case the crumple zone works cos the pedestrian no injury..

[Lab4games]

since police say there is nothing they can do and car owner can do nothing either, there is a serious loop hole.

 

If i accidentally fall onto a car's bonnet, i am not liable to pay damages?

 

if i scratch a car's body, i am considered vandalizing it and can be jailed/fined.

 

 

a good way to get back at your enemies?

[Acieed]

Conti cars are always heavier is also an urban myth .. Mercedes C200 about 1990 kg, Toyota Camry 2.0 about 1970 kg.

 

Safety and FC are more than that.

 

 

 

[Tas0577]

The heavier + harder = safer idea is seriously outdated. In fact, they pose more danger to both passengers and pedestrians.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumple_zone

 

Guess that does not mean lighter and thinner car body is better as all those NCAP test are done in a controlled environment and speed unlike real accidents.

 

Lighter car body needs a lot of skills from the drivers as it is not easy to control when it travel at high speed cos it is not as stable as heavier cars.

[Mustank]

time to put barb wires on one's cars

[Pyramid_sg]

The heavier + harder = safer idea is seriously outdated. In fact, they pose more danger to both passengers and pedestrians.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumple_zone

 

Jap cars like Mitsubishi have recognised the need for a harder shell. What I am referring to here is the safety cell part of the car that protects the occupants. For eg, the Mitsubishi Lancer has the RISE body (safety cell concept) to protect the occupants.

 

Jap cars are safer than what it was say 20 years ago. They are now equiped with safety cells and crumple zones.

[Pyramid_sg]

Conti cars are always heavier is also an urban myth .. Mercedes C200 about 1990 kg, Toyota Camry 2.0 about 1970 kg.

 

Safety and FC are more than that.

 

Actually the Kerb weight of the Mercedes C200 is 1550kg and the Camry is 1488kg. (Info from SG car mart.)

[Rickster]

Guess that does not mean lighter and thinner car body is better as all those NCAP test are done in a controlled environment and speed unlike real accidents.

 

Lighter car body needs a lot of skills from the drivers as it is not easy to control when it travel at high speed cos it is not as stable as heavier cars.

 

That is another myth - lighter car body = unstable high speed.

 

Much of the stability of a car when moving at high speed is the aerodynamics & suspension. The downward force on a car when moving at high speed and the reduction of of ground clearance (sports car with low ground clearance, thus less air turbulence under the car) is key to stability @ high speed.

 

Look at F1 cars. They are feather light and yet goes at more than 300km/hr.

 

Another thing about lighter body. It improves handling & braking.

 

[Rickster]

Not surprising.

 

80% of the people whom I know that drives cars up till now, still firmly believes that the hard & heavy Volvos of the 80s are legendary safety vehicles.

 

They will always say..."look at the cars now! I press hard hard only the car dent liao....how to be safe??"

[Tkseah]

if all else being equal, heavier car will be more stable at high speed.. just as a lighter car improves braking, a heavier car improves stability..

[Zyrofillica]

of u can just add a big ass spoiler and ur car will have as much downforce as an F1 car haha