Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 4, 2010 Share September 4, 2010 well, but sadly enough, the current gen of engines are supplied by Ford.... and when Ford isn't their parent company now (Jaguar and Land Rover), TATA has to take over the supply of engines one day.... especially when the curent deal of Ford supplying engines expires.... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damastah1 Neutral Newbie September 23, 2010 Share September 23, 2010 Think it looks OK -- still prefer the XF. The front of the XJ just looks odd to me. I'd consider it, but everyone I talk to tell me the resale value on Jags is horrible...or is that pre XF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockaphonics 2nd Gear September 23, 2010 Share September 23, 2010 you people got actually go try the xj or at least go see it in the flesh not? If real life when u see it up close, its not tt fantastic in terms of styling. The interior is modern plus a touch of vintage but somehow it feels v cramp compare to a 7. Then the bad part is that the overall build quality feels bad compared to s and 7. The doors feel thin and makes a tin can sound when closed. Its a nice car, but it still cant beat the best in the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDK Neutral Newbie September 24, 2010 Share September 24, 2010 you people got actually go try the xj or at least go see it in the flesh not? If real life when u see it up close, its not tt fantastic in terms of styling. The interior is modern plus a touch of vintage but somehow it feels v cramp compare to a 7. Then the bad part is that the overall build quality feels bad compared to s and 7. The doors feel thin and makes a tin can sound when closed. Its a nice car, but it still cant beat the best in the market. So, in your opinion, what is "the best in the market?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruykava Neutral Newbie September 24, 2010 Share September 24, 2010 So, in your opinion, what is "the best in the market?" Jumping the gun here, but any car that cannot beat the 7- and S- does not stand a chance. Having seen the XJ in the flesh, I'd say it's a pretty "interesting" and "different" design, but I don't feel it's "better". I'm not sure the typical Singapore towkay (which is the type of person who will buy this range of cars) would appreciate something that's just "different". Also lots of these cars are actually provided by the company for it's top manager - and buying a newly trendy Jag just doesn't sound as "responsible" to shareholders as something safe like a S or 7. Not fair on the Jag brand of course, but it's the reality. The lack of an engine around 3 - 3.5litres also makes it a seriously difficult sell. S500 / 750Li / or Jag XJ? Not many people will go for the Jag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjchsg 2nd Gear September 28, 2010 Share September 28, 2010 I visited the showroom and take a look of the XJ. Exterior looks good. However, the rear seat is tight for a car that suppose going after S & 7. Its legroom at the back is even smaller than E-class. In comparing with XF, the rear legroom & headroom is about the same. I am 1.81m tall, in the rear of the XJ, almost touching the roof and not much legroom left. Interior use too much chrome, not my liking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDK Neutral Newbie September 28, 2010 Share September 28, 2010 Its likely that you saw the short-wheel based version of the new XJ, hence you found the rear legroom rather narrow. The long-wheel based version XJ has very generous rear legroom, more than enough to accommodate a person your height. At 5.247m long, its even longer than the X350 XJ model. However, if you mistook the XF for the XJ (as both cars somehow have similar nose ends), then its a different matter altogether.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDK Neutral Newbie September 28, 2010 Share September 28, 2010 Agreed that the current XJ will not appeal to the local "typical towkay" who would often (perhaps due to peer pressure) go for the "typical" 7 series or S Class. However, truth is that such "typical towkays" will often get lost in the multitude of 7 series and S Classes you find on our roads. So the XJ's appeal would be to those who want to be different and not "typical." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear September 28, 2010 Share September 28, 2010 I visited the showroom and take a look of the XJ. Exterior looks good. However, the rear seat is tight for a car that suppose going after S & 7. Its legroom at the back is even smaller than E-class. In comparing with XF, the rear legroom & headroom is about the same. I am 1.81m tall, in the rear of the XJ, almost touching the roof and not much legroom left. Interior use too much chrome, not my liking. Lol.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo111094 Neutral Newbie October 10, 2010 Share October 10, 2010 The new XJ is not desiged to look like german car,too tecological.THIS is a proper brtish luxury car!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo111094 Neutral Newbie October 10, 2010 Share October 10, 2010 Jaguar is not trying too look at typical towkay but more towards younger towkays!!! and people with style,passion and taste!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDK Neutral Newbie October 11, 2010 Share October 11, 2010 So can I take it that you are in agreement with me that the new XJ's (X351) appeal would be with the "non-typical local towkays" rather than those "typical ones" who would usually buy a Merc S Class? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiadaw 6th Gear October 11, 2010 Share October 11, 2010 Of course the Jaguar XJ is different. Its British! German & British are quite different with their approach to cars. The British are automakers are never so concern about the biggest market share, the biggest seller. What they wanted is to make cars that will appeal to people who appreciate cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpwong22 Neutral Newbie October 11, 2010 Share October 11, 2010 I think some of the people who replied above have not really owned an XJ before or driven it for a long period of time. Having the X350 for so many years, I am generally quite happy with the car, except for the sound of the closing doors and the airmatic suspension which I need to reset from time to time by restarting the car. The car is generally quite reliable and I am still using the same car battery all these years. In the context of Singapore, I think the AD has done a good job of keeping the customers happy where the car servicing is concerned. Of course it is more expensive than the rest but the response time is short. I never have to make appointments to send my car down and the service consultants seem to know their stuff. Unfortunately the 2 more senior service consultants whom I used to bring my car to, 1 has been relegated to Renault and 1 has left. I did consider the new XJ but somehow the look has not grown on me (yet!). It's more powerful and has more rear legroom but the armrest in front is a little too high for my liking. The front LED lights seem dimmer than the competitors and sadly the doors still close flimsily like before and there is no soft-close option. The instrument cluster is too digital for my liking too. From what I think, those who buy Jaguars will most likely be previous owners and most will buy it due to blind faith. The cars need not be the most advanced or have the most legroom or the quietest cabin, etc but the emotive sense somehow appeals to the buyers. Maybe I am speaking for myself only and I may succumb to the new XJ earlier than I can imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiadaw 6th Gear October 11, 2010 Share October 11, 2010 I think some of the people who replied above have not really owned an XJ before or driven it for a long period of time. Having the X350 for so many years, I am generally quite happy with the car, except for the sound of the closing doors and the airmatic suspension which I need to reset from time to time by restarting the car. The car is generally quite reliable and I am still using the same car battery all these years. In the context of Singapore, I think the AD has done a good job of keeping the customers happy where the car servicing is concerned. Of course it is more expensive than the rest but the response time is short. I never have to make appointments to send my car down and the service consultants seem to know their stuff. Unfortunately the 2 more senior service consultants whom I used to bring my car to, 1 has been relegated to Renault and 1 has left. I did consider the new XJ but somehow the look has not grown on me (yet!). It's more powerful and has more rear legroom but the armrest in front is a little too high for my liking. The front LED lights seem dimmer than the competitors and sadly the doors still close flimsily like before and there is no soft-close option. The instrument cluster is too digital for my liking too. From what I think, those who buy Jaguars will most likely be previous owners and most will buy it due to blind faith. The cars need not be the most advanced or have the most legroom or the quietest cabin, etc but the emotive sense somehow appeals to the buyers. Maybe I am speaking for myself only and I may succumb to the new XJ earlier than I can imagine I sat in an XJ....once. The older model. Very the nice. It was actually the company car, & they (JaguarLandRover)were so budget that the company asked them to drive all the way from central England to Karben, near Frankfurt (10 hours plus ride, passing France, Belgium, The Netherlands, before hitting the autobahn in Germany), instead of took 1.5 hour flight for 4 persons. But it was a nice ride, or so I heard. I only join them the next day to my office. They have come a long way from the credit crutch & in red just a few years ago. & yes, please continue to support Jaguar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDK Neutral Newbie October 12, 2010 Share October 12, 2010 I think some of the people who replied above have not really owned an XJ before or driven it for a long period of time. Having the X350 for so many years, I am generally quite happy with the car, except for the sound of the closing doors and the airmatic suspension which I need to reset from time to time by restarting the car. The car is generally quite reliable and I am still using the same car battery all these years. In the context of Singapore, I think the AD has done a good job of keeping the customers happy where the car servicing is concerned. Of course it is more expensive than the rest but the response time is short. I never have to make appointments to send my car down and the service consultants seem to know their stuff. Unfortunately the 2 more senior service consultants whom I used to bring my car to, 1 has been relegated to Renault and 1 has left. I did consider the new XJ but somehow the look has not grown on me (yet!). It's more powerful and has more rear legroom but the armrest in front is a little too high for my liking. The front LED lights seem dimmer than the competitors and sadly the doors still close flimsily like before and there is no soft-close option. The instrument cluster is too digital for my liking too. From what I think, those who buy Jaguars will most likely be previous owners and most will buy it due to blind faith. The cars need not be the most advanced or have the most legroom or the quietest cabin, etc but the emotive sense somehow appeals to the buyers. Maybe I am speaking for myself only and I may succumb to the new XJ earlier than I can imagine I tend to share your sentiments. I've been a faithful Jag fan, having owned a S-Type, a XK8 convertible and presently my daily commute is a XJ8L (X350). While I am faced with the almost similar design dashboard in all my 3 Jags, somehow I don't get bored looking at it. In between my Jags I had BMWs, Audis and Mercs. But in the end, I still go back to Jags. Perhaps my early schooling in Coventry, UK had created this liking for the marque. I used to see new Jags coming out of the factory nearby and told myself that I hope to one day take delivery of one of them. My love for "old school" Jags have prompted friends to tell me that I should use a "horse and cart" as my daily commute . Somehow I agree . As for the X351, well I like the plush interior (although the "space shuttle-style" instruments aren't really to my liking). But like you (old chum), the exterior design do need some time to get used to. Also absent is the leaper in all new Jags (safety they say). Then again, what's a Jag without the leaper? Sadly, my XJ's term with me is limited. Soon enough I will be parting with it when my new ride comes. And sadly (perhaps), its not the new X351. So, its gonna be "Farewell Jaguar" Sorry chum, I don't have blind faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpwong22 Neutral Newbie October 12, 2010 Share October 12, 2010 The rides on XJ are quite comfortable but the headrest (be it the front or back) somehow just does not allow my head to rest properly on it. I am not sure about the latest XJ as I only spent about 10 minutes in it but it is the same for the previous models too. Or it could just be that my head is odd-shape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpwong22 Neutral Newbie October 12, 2010 Share October 12, 2010 You are lucky to have driven many different makes before but for me, I have only owned BMWs and Jags. Handling wise, BMW wins but XJ is not far behind. However when you talk about cornering confidently, BMW wins by a larger margin. My passion for Jaguar stems from my family. I remember fondly my family used to own a 90 3.6l Daimler where everything is the same as an XJ but the chrome grilles in front and the chrome bootlid are wavy unlike the straight ones on an XJ. I was fascinated by the small wooden (useless?) tables behind the front seats and the 2 rear reading lights which you could turn in your direction. Well, it has no leaper too Did you ever open your XJ boot on a rainy day? I think there is a design flaw as the rainwater will flow downwards towards the rear windscreen as you open the boot and the rainwater will follow the contours of the groove and move to the extreme ends. Then it will flow downwards to the bumper and finally end up on our shoes. To make it worse, the remote for the boot only unlocks but does not prop it up but my family's other S-type can open the boot fully with the remote key. If they can do it for the S-type, why not for the XJ? I am happy that you are getting a new ride. I should be keeping mine till the 10th year and hopefully by then I will have grown to like the current XJ ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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