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every week got reports of hdb upgraders rushing to buy mass market condos. is the economy really scrwed or not? or these people foolishly commit themselves to such buys when the recession is only starting.

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Can enlighten what is meant by "mass mkt condo"? Is it by price, location, no. of units in the establishment? I have been baffled many times by this term.

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Not surprising to me. The property and stock market has been booming for a few years before it start to slump. There are still alot of cash rich ppl who are waiting to upgrade their homes.

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dun believe what the media says.....

 

the property ppl are only trying to save themselves by publishing that sales are still very good and blah blah.....

 

and also trying to con ppl to rush in to buy before all "sold out"

 

but the truth is they are facing poor sales and poor commissions.......

 

the property ppl are sharks!!!!

 

 

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  On 4/8/2009 at 3:09 AM, Kxbc said:

Can enlighten what is meant by "mass mkt condo"? Is it by price, location, no. of units in the establishment? I have been baffled many times by this term.

 

I think anything that's not in district 9, 10 and 11, or even in East Coast / Marine Parade area, likely to be 99 years leasehold, are considered mass market. Usually it's 1,200 - 1,300 sq ft and generally less than $1M.

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  On 4/8/2009 at 2:56 AM, Toapayohkid said:

every week got reports of hdb upgraders rushing to buy mass market condos. is the economy really scrwed or not? or these people foolishly commit themselves to such buys when the recession is only starting.

Because the price gap between HDB and Condo has narrowed. There are people who are either rich,or very foolhardy.

 

But whatever it is, I think the best time to pick up bargains would be around this year.

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i went to see Mi Casa @ CCK, 2+1 (study room) after whatever discount, best price is $712K. i said too expensive as it is at 12 floor. then i ask for floor 6 to 10. all sold. i said sure or not. are you holding and not selling. he said all these units were sold in 2 weeks and still selling fast. $712K+ for a 2+1 is damn CHEAP in his opinion (normally can fetch $750K), average psf is $640 [hur]

 

  On 4/8/2009 at 3:15 AM, Donut said:

dun believe what the media says.....

 

the property ppl are only trying to save themselves by publishing that sales are still very good and blah blah.....

 

and also trying to con ppl to rush in to buy before all "sold out"

 

but the truth is they are facing poor sales and poor commissions.......

 

the property ppl are sharks!!!!

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  On 4/8/2009 at 3:15 AM, Drive_carcar said:

I think anything that's not in district 9, 10 and 11, or even in East Coast / Marine Parade area, likely to be 99 years leasehold, are considered mass market. Usually it's 1,200 - 1,300 sq ft and generally less than $1M.

That's a lot of "mass mkt" condos then. Wonder when I'll even have the chance to stay in a mass mkt condo.

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  On 4/8/2009 at 3:20 AM, Wt_know said:

i went to see Mi Casa @ CCK, 2+1 (study room) after whatever discount, best price is $712K. i said too expensive as it is at 12 floor. then i ask for floor 6 to 10. all sold. i said sure or not. are you holding and not selling. he said all these units were sold in 2 weeks and still selling fast. $712K+ for a 2+1 is damn CHEAP in his opinion (normally can fetch $750K), average psf is $640 [hur]

 

The nearby condos - warren and northvale are going for much less for the past 2 months. What's the differentiation for Micasa other than the fact is new?

 

NORTHVALE CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Apartment 1 644,000 1,668 $386 Mar-09

NORTHVALE CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Apartment 1 500,000 1,281 $390 Mar-09

THE WARREN CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Condominium 1 645,000 1,216 $530 Mar-09

THE WARREN CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Condominium 1 788,000 1,475 $534 Mar-09

THE WARREN CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Condominium 1 556,500 1,066 $522 Mar-09

NORTHVALE CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Apartment 1 830,000 2,723 $305 Mar-09

NORTHVALE CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Apartment 1 638,000 1,356 $470 Mar-09

THE WARREN CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Condominium 1 550,000 1,066 $516 Feb-09

THE WARREN CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Condominium 1 742,888 1,313 $566 Feb-09

NORTHVALE CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Apartment 1 660,000 1,518 $435 Feb-09

 

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Northvale, 762 units, year completed 1998 = 11 years already, [:(] i think the design also quite outdated.

The Warren, 699 units, year completed 2004 = 5 years already, furnishing also not great

Mi Casa, 457 units [thumbsup] , year completed = 3+ years time, furnishing is up-to-date as progress with user demands

 

  On 4/8/2009 at 3:37 AM, Falc said:

The nearby condos - warren and northvale are going for much less for the past 2 months. What's the differentiation for Micasa other than the fact is new?

 

NORTHVALE CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Apartment 1 644,000 1,668 $386 Mar-09

NORTHVALE CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Apartment 1 500,000 1,281 $390 Mar-09

THE WARREN CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Condominium 1 645,000 1,216 $530 Mar-09

THE WARREN CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Condominium 1 788,000 1,475 $534 Mar-09

THE WARREN CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Condominium 1 556,500 1,066 $522 Mar-09

NORTHVALE CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Apartment 1 830,000 2,723 $305 Mar-09

NORTHVALE CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Apartment 1 638,000 1,356 $470 Mar-09

THE WARREN CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Condominium 1 550,000 1,066 $516 Feb-09

THE WARREN CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Condominium 1 742,888 1,313 $566 Feb-09

NORTHVALE CHOA CHU KANG LOOP Apartment 1 660,000 1,518 $435 Feb-09

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So Micasa has better furnishing?

Anyway, 11 years later, you know what kind of price Micasa will be going for. :P

 

How does the condo size by itself affect anything? Bayshore park has 1093 units [knife] but the facilities and recreational spaces are top-notch.

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Turbocharged

Do you know what were these prices psf for Warren and Northvale at the time of launch? The psf slide seems pretty steep.

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MiCasa -> design and furnishing is up-to-date la of coz compare to 5 to 10 years ago condo

If the condo is not freehold -> the older it is the more it drops in pricing -> that's my view as the 99 years tenure depreciate

Condo size -> personal preference -> i don't like 'huge' site where you feel too crowded. isn't we pay so much hard earned money ($700K may means little to someone but it means A LOT to me) so isn't we want a bit of exclusivity ? as you see those < 100 units condo in downtown is damn expensive. 1st = location, 2nd = fewer units.

 

  On 4/8/2009 at 3:53 AM, Falc said:

So Micasa has better furnishing?

Anyway, 11 years later, you know what kind of price Micasa will be going for. :P

 

How does the condo size by itself affect anything? Bayshore park has 1093 units [knife] but the facilities and recreational spaces are top-notch.

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I just recently went to see Northvale.... just feels too outdated and the layout isn't really to my liking

 

The Warren's layout and facilities are much better (not to say newer) but it's a huge development with 699 units so i just find that there's way too many residents... A bit too overwhelming for me...

 

 

 

 

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  On 4/8/2009 at 4:02 AM, Wreckwrx said:

I just recently went to see Northvale.... just feels too outdated and the layout isn't really to my liking

 

The Warren's layout and facilities are much better (not to say newer) but it's a huge development with 699 units so i just find that there's way too many residents... A bit too overwhelming for me...

 

Would the facilities of Northvale be better and more open spaces?

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