FILIP LOU, A PETTY HERO? BIASED ST REPORT?

[Hamburger]

its 1st class medical service tat koh as been bragging all along. so all lesser mortal pls zipped

[J_c_boy]

Thank you, SIS MELISSA

[J_c_boy]

Thank you for your opinion, BRO SILVER BLADE

 

Pardon me, but shouldn't the victim's family be compensating Mr Lou like what BRO DONUT had pointed out?

 

The flow of events didn't seem right.

[J_c_boy]

Thank you for your feedback, BRO SABIAN

 

Agree with you that the victim's family should do the paying.

[J_c_boy]

Thank you for your feedback, BRO DONUT

Can't agree more man

 

SGH really has no judgement call to make in this instance.

 

A noble act should never be quantified in dollars and cents.

 

The hero is answerable for his own actions. There have been tragic heroes in the past who perished in the act of saving others. How are they going to be compensated? The National Park? Sentosa?

 

Mr Lou may not have whined about the $90, but the fact that he and Straits Times had brought up the issue indicated that they expected to be "reimbursed" for the "priceless" noble act.

 

Ultimately, we can't expect people to foot the bill for us when we are sick or injured.

[Playtime]

I posted previously about being beaten up after stopping a drunk fella from beating up a 7/11 cashier.

Guess what.

1) Told I must pay for ambulance if they send me to hospital.

2) Police act blur want me to drop the case on the spot. (With CCTV, security guards witness etc)

3) Go Cantonment make report, fXXker there lie to me ask me go court.

4) Go court already, police say dont want take action. Judge also stunned at their inaction.

 

This is Singapore........ no good deed goes unpunished... unless its a photo op for the police to give out some medals to people who do their work for them.

[Genie47]

Lets cap things off.

 

A man collapses from cardiac arrest. You perform CPR until the ambulance arrives. The efforts are futile and the man passes on.

 

The family is furious and sues for being unable to save him. They accuse you of having mediocre CPR skills that caused let to his demise.

 

So do you want to be a hero? In a society that does not reward you for selfless acts and we are also a step towards exploiting heroic acts. ST can be seen as being exploitative.

[Silver_blade]

  On 2/19/2009 at 10:13 AM, J_c_boy said:

Thank you for your opinion, BRO SILVER BLADE

 

Pardon me, but shouldn't the victim's family be compensating Mr Lou like what BRO DONUT had pointed out?

 

The flow of events didn't seem right.

I made that comment cos SGH was the 'service provider' and their are the 1st party who could decide whether to show their 'appreciation' of his public spiritedness. But this case, SGH didn't want to show it, instead left it to member of the public to so.

 

I doubt that woman in the news would want to thank the 'hero' (at least not at that moment), let alone pay for his medical bill. Her family probably didn't know about it at that point of time (assuming their are in Aust).

 

I don't think that 'hero' whined about the $90. He was just shocked that he was made to pay...which he did.

 

Actually, this is not so much a case of who is right or wrong. It's a question of do we need to be so calculative about minor things.

 

For example, we see an old man slipped and fell at town center cos of slippery tiles. Are we going to attend to him and help him seek medical attention 1st (assuming there will be no further claim, just a simple once off treatment) or are we going to tell that old man we sympathize with him, but we think the town council should be the one to do that (cos that area is under their care) and tell him to wait for town council staff to come?

Edited February 19, 2009 by Silver_blade

[Silver_blade]

  On 2/19/2009 at 4:03 PM, Genie47 said:

Lets cap things off.

 

A man collapses from cardiac arrest. You perform CPR until the ambulance arrives. The efforts are futile and the man passes on.

 

The family is furious and sues for being unable to save him. They accuse you of having mediocre CPR skills that caused let to his demise.

 

So do you want to be a hero? In a society that does not reward you for selfless acts and we are also a step towards exploiting heroic acts. ST can be seen as being exploitative.

You got it right.

[Phang79]

I think the hospital is right. If they do waive off the fees, wat's stopping others from trying to "fake claim" from the hospital?

Think far, it maybe clear cut here, but wat about other cases? Worst if ppl say hospital only reinburse foreigners!

Don't be short-sighted

[David]

Mr Fillip Lou is a Dutch-born Australian.

 

With regards to the ST article on both days, interestingly the reporter nor the ST did not identified who that SGH spokeman is who made that comment. It would have a lot of credibility to the article.

[J_c_boy]

You're right, BRO SILVER BLADE

 

One should not be calculative over minor matters. After all, life is short.

 

Which is what Mr Lou and ST should have done.. Don't bite on the money bit and just focus on the heroism.

 

That's why my title came about.

[Gendut]

  On 2/19/2009 at 4:59 PM, Phang79 said:

I think the hospital is right. If they do waive off the fees, wat's stopping others from trying to "fake claim" from the hospital?

Think far, it maybe clear cut here, but wat about other cases? Worst if ppl say hospital only reinburse foreigners!

Don't be short-sighted

 

Poor you. I guess it must be in your psyche that everything is negative, every individual is selfish, every action is laced with agenda.

 

Instead of looking for positives, you fear the negatives.

 

Instead of seeing the glass half full, it is half empty.

 

Instead of rewarding good behaviour, you punish bad ones.

 

Your life must be horrible thinking at everu turn, someones gonna take advantage of you. Tsk. Tsk.

 

Not totally your fault when you grow up in a kiasu environment and cannot think for yourself in positives.

[Gendut]

  On 2/19/2009 at 4:03 PM, Genie47 said:

Lets cap things off.

 

A man collapses from cardiac arrest. You perform CPR until the ambulance arrives. The efforts are futile and the man passes on.

 

The family is furious and sues for being unable to save him. They accuse you of having mediocre CPR skills that caused let to his demise.

 

So do you want to be a hero? In a society that does not reward you for selfless acts and we are also a step towards exploiting heroic acts. ST can be seen as being exploitative.

 

I'll turn the table around here.

 

What if that person was your child, who collapsed in a room full of CPR trained people and eventually passed away.

 

Later you read in a newspaper report that those present did not attempt CPR or made any effort to help nor lift a finger. The repot quoted someone: "I knew how to help but I dared not cos if he died the family would sue me."

 

Sue also? Help and get sued. Don't help also sued. At this rate we will never build a civil society.

 

[Genie47]

Precisely what I am pointing at.

 

SG will never be a civil society. The reason being that we are not a free society. Note the difference. A society based on freedom is different from a free society.

[Hishercar]

the power of WHITE

 

now I completely understand Micheal Jackson's religious need for being white

[Hishercar]

you know i completely feel that way too

 

and the strangest thing is many feel that way

 

but are in self denial

 

so much so that they would personally attack forumers who talks about it

 

 

some just cant come to terms with themselves

[Hishercar]

it is true a policy is a policy

 

but there is a caveat

 

they mentioned case to case basis

 

so when does the case to case basis kick in

 

 

just like when do you start to justify the use of our reserves

 

not when citizens are dying but when

 

GIC are at the brink of going bust and having the embarassment to declare it

 

that is also one reason why madam ho ho had to step down