Latka 1st Gear February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 Can I share something. I have FT PR colleague, son born and grow up in SG. His plan is once son reach NS age, all give up PR and go back to his home country. Then next time when his son older liao pass NS age, son probably can come back again as FT to take our jobs right? Why can like that? Because we are a country that always welcomes FT and we give out PR status like Mac giving out discount coupons. So we r just inviting FT to come exploit us. Btw, the recent govt CPF rebate plan for the employers, to help save jobs, does it apply to PR also? If so, our reserves that is accumulated from past generations till now r use to help save the jobs of this kind of people also? We r doomed. Cannot come back anymore even on social visit pass. Knew someone who was like that. Essentially, he was told by ICA if he land in Sin, he will be turned away by immigration officers. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latka 1st Gear February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 Too bad he isn't a bumiputra. Maybe he should go back to India to claim some rights. If he from boleh land, mah mah got no bumi rights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 Too bad he isn't a bumiputra. Maybe he should go back to India to claim some rights. Thought the Indian in MY are suing England for years of discrimination and it was the colonial master fault for bringing them to MY many many years ago. He should go back and join in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 Gopal shld go CMPB n volunteer for NS They won't take him, he's OBESE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 Gopal shld go CMPB n volunteer for NS They won't take him, he's OBESE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 Cut it short .... "just leave" Wouldn't FO be better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 If he from boleh land, mah mah got no bumi rights. Did you shake your head left and right when you said that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 (edited) Thought the Indian in MY are suing England for years of discrimination and it was the colonial master fault for bringing them to MY many many years ago. He should go back and join in. I'll let you know one thing, it wouldn't surprise me if he claimed Indian parentage, (from India) as the Indian Government has this thing that allow Indians, who can prove (birth cert) their parents were from India, they can do investments in india just as a citizen of India would, plus other subsidies. So, SG work and get this, MY buy house , citizenship, India investment in land etc... Don't Aneh, aneh hor? BTW, they suing England for what? They served as Comfort Slaves also ar? Edited February 14, 2009 by Mazdaowner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Neutral Newbie February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 He's better than middle class. If he loses his job, then only he's middle class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arowana1 1st Gear February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 (edited) A lot of Malaysians who have lived here for many many years still refuse to take up citizenship. I know some of them even studied A levels and went to University here and then spent their entire lives working in Singapore, but after 20 yrs still want to keep their options open. Openly they give all kinds of excuses like this Adrian guy. Privately, they just don't want the liabilities of being a Singaporean (eg NS for children), and they want to own property back home in Malaysia. The problem as I see it is that there is not enough disincentives to remaining a PR as opposed to taking up citizenship. From housing, education, healthcare etc, the differences have not been significant enough to change their minds. But since PRs have long been accustomed to getting almost equal treatment as citizens, they now think its their entitlement and right. im a pray tell, why should a pr take up citizenship when we all know that having an alternative place to retire is something that we all plan for? being a citizen, only batam and johor are options... as stated by our million dollar ministers. why get angry with prs who started their family here, pay tax, etc? sore over ns? go look up ur minister. dun cry and cry but when erection come, all vote for 66.6%. where do u draw the line between citizen and pr privileges? why no one tell sinkies working overseas to change their citizenship to that country? Edited February 14, 2009 by Arowana1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canisminor 1st Gear February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 im a pray tell, why should a pr take up citizenship when we all know that having an alternative place to retire is something that we all plan for? being a citizen, only batam and johor are options... as stated by our million dollar ministers. why get angry with prs who started their family here, pay tax, etc? sore over ns? go look up ur minister. dun cry and cry but when erection come, all vote for 66.6%. where do u draw the line between citizen and pr privileges? why no one tell sinkies working overseas to change their citizenship to that country? Many Singaporeans won't have so much unhappiness with PRs as long as : 1. they just ADMIT that they are opportunists here for themselves and stop putting on the act that they are here to contribute to Singapore yada yada...oh pls...like they had much better opportunities back home that they sacrificed to be here. 2. they realise the concessions the govt has given them so far (which is many Singaporeans' view, is already unfair) cannot last forever and that they can stop demanding equal rights whenever there is any hint of their position being threatened. And we don't need PRs to tell us how to handle our govt. Leave that to Singaporeans, but expect and accept changes quietly if the growing tide of unhappy Singaporeans get our way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird5011 3rd Gear February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 In the first place..why did the garhem welcome them to Sillypore??? These FT's are the quitters in their own country!! ab.bmp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgnick 1st Gear February 15, 2009 Share February 15, 2009 (edited) Cannot come back anymore even on social visit pass. Knew someone who was like that. Essentially, he was told by ICA if he land in Sin, he will be turned away by immigration officers. So even 2nd generation PRs who give up their PRship cannot come back anymore. This is indeed great to know. Thanks. Keep all these selfish people who only wants to take but don't want to contribute OUT!!!!!!!!! FOREVER!!!!! Too bad the job credit plan to save jobs also includes saving the jobs of selfish PRs who only out to exploit SG but dont want to contribute :angry: 2nd gen PRs who goes through NS, I will see them as one of our own. Edited February 15, 2009 by Sgnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoots 3rd Gear February 15, 2009 Share February 15, 2009 (edited) im a why get angry with prs who started their family here, pay tax, etc? sore over ns? go look up ur minister. dun cry and cry but when erection come, all vote for 66.6%. To correct you: it's only the eligible voting population that had 66.6% vote (ie areas that were contested) And while we do complain about the government, I'm still consoled that at our politicians still respect the system enough to adhere to the results. Unlike *some* country... whole country voted and then... the states can still flip-flop here and there... no wonder the prata-politiks pray tell, why should a pr take up citizenship when we all know that having an alternative place to retire is something that we all plan for? being a citizen, only batam and johor are options... as stated by our million dollar ministers. where do u draw the line between citizen and pr privileges? why no one tell sinkies working overseas to change their citizenship to that country? YOu are soOOOoo missing the point here: There is absolutely no forcing of PRs to take up citizenship here. Neither is there any ill-feeling towards PRs who accept their 'package' of being a PR.. JUST STOP ASKING FOR CITIZEN PRIVILIDGES WHEN YOU ARE NOT ONE!!!!... Cannot understand simple logic ah?? I have not come across any articles of Singaporeans working in US or Canada or Europe or Malaysia... asking for CITIZEN rights and privilidges of those countries while they are working in those countries as FTs or PRs leh. If you have, please highlight... Edited February 15, 2009 by Scoots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigershark1976 Turbocharged February 15, 2009 Share February 15, 2009 is this gopal guy a FT in the 1st place??? sound like a blue colour to me.... . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion Turbocharged February 15, 2009 Share February 15, 2009 no choice... Singapore will never be the same again... nowadays... MRTs squeeze like hell kopi tiam assistants can't understand my "teh si xiu dai" orders local delights in food courts are cooked by non-local FTs (the taste is never the same again) i miss the good old Singapore... of at least 10 years ago... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeniz Turbocharged February 15, 2009 Share February 15, 2009 no choice... Singapore will never be the same again... nowadays... MRTs squeeze like hell kopi tiam assistants can't understand my "teh si xiu dai" orders local delights in food courts are cooked by non-local FTs (the taste is never the same again) i miss the good old Singapore... of at least 10 years ago... We still have yet to reach our target population of 6.5 million people. By then we probably have to retire at Batam or JB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twofouronenite 1st Gear February 15, 2009 Share February 15, 2009 He not from SG meh? Tot he put as location as SG in the particular? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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