Chucs75 Neutral Newbie February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 every country takes care of their own kind. otherwise why do we need government? do u expect malaysia, australia, china to take care of us in time of needs? they will give priority to their ppl first! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucs75 Neutral Newbie February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 (edited) deleted double post Edited February 13, 2009 by Chucs75 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucs75 Neutral Newbie February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 every country takes care of their own kind. otherwise why do we need government? do u expect malaysia, australia, china to take care of us in time of needs? they will give priority to their ppl first! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucs75 Neutral Newbie February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 NS aside, he didnt even make the first step to take up citizenship. there is simply no basis for his argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beei 1st Gear February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 every country takes care of their own kind. otherwise why do we need government? do u expect malaysia, australia, china to take care of us in time of needs? they will give priority to their ppl first! I know you are very excited, but don't have to triple posts.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucs75 Neutral Newbie February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 well written! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah_dude Neutral Newbie February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 (edited) Pro-S'porean policy in jobs, housing impractical THE notion of a pro-Singaporean policy is noble but not practical. What many policymakers and many well-meaning citizens fail to recognise is that many Singaporeans are married to non-Singaporeans. Non-Singaporeans may, for one reason or another, not be in a position to take up Singapore citizenship. This may be because they have elderly parents in their native country or they do not meet general requirements to take up citizenship. As someone in this category, I find that this pro-Singaporean policy penalises this segment of the population. Over the years, we have contributed thousands of dollars to the Singapore economy, we pay taxes and levies and we have decided to setup of our family unit in Singapore. We have bought an HBD flat and look forward to being proud owners of a home in Singapore. I am not in a position to take up citizenship, as it is my responsibility to take care of my parents in Malaysia. They have chosen their home and I cannot, in good conscience, force them to relocate here. YOU MEAN U ARE NOW ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM WHEN YOU N FAMILY ARE STAYING IN SPORE ?...WHAT A PILE OF RUBBISH WHY?....DUN WANT YOUR KID TO SERVE NS say so ...!!! Imagine this. Our flat will be ready only in 2012. Of our two incomes, I earn more than my wife. My income pays for almost everything, including rent (which has increased astronomically). The cost of living has gone up, and even cooking at home is no cheaper then eating outside. Paying utility bills, insurance premiums, car loan, education loans and so on leaves us with just enough to make ends meet. In recent months, we have had to dip into our savings to pay for many things. We used to consider ourselves slightly better off than middle class, but now we are not even in that category. If I lose my job, because I am not a Singaporean, where would that leave us? Consider this as well. I pay goods and services tax (GST), income tax, Central Provident Fund (CPF) and every other payment as Singaporeans do, but I get few if any benefits. I do not get GST refunds; nor am I a beneficiary of any other monetary initiative to relieve the sufferings of Singaporeans, despite the fact that I am forming a family unit with a Singaporean in Singapore. Adrian Gopal Edited February 13, 2009 by Ah_dude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strife Neutral Newbie February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 Definitely, it is only reasonable for the government to take care of its citizens. Citizen deserves 1st class benefits, PR 2nd class, others 3rd class. But it is also true that PRs do contribute to the economy. But contributing does not entitle him to citizen benefits. Period. On a side note, non-bumi Malaysian are considered 2nd class citizen, why would he not choose to be 1st class here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 Actually, once his wife is a Singaporean, if his kids are born here, the child automatically becomes a citizen here. There's not running away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shull Turbocharged February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 (edited) what a load of bs.. did he serve NS? 2 yrs worth of sweat and blood from chiong sua..plus another 10+ yrs of reservist.. if not, then STFU... Edited February 13, 2009 by Shull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah_dude Neutral Newbie February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 Actually, once his wife is a Singaporean, if his kids are born here, the child automatically becomes a citizen here. There's not running away. he can bring his wife go Msia to give birth...then register there.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah_tee 2nd Gear February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 Gopal shld go CMPB n volunteer for NS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 he can bring his wife go Msia to give birth...then register there.... Hmmm... Definitely possible, but then in this case, his children won't be able to get PR status here also. I doubt gahmen will grant. It's either citizen or nothing. I may be wrong though. To give up all the subsidies here for the sake of running away from NS, in my personal opinion, silly... Not to say he's from US or some UK countries with a lot of social benefits. Malaysia? Silly.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion Turbocharged February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 Gopal shld go CMPB n volunteer for NS yes... No NS no talk... Mr Gopal please go to NS for 2 years, let me tekan jialat jialat, then let u have the extra $100 GST credit ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pencapchew Neutral Newbie February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 Wah bro... if only going thru NS is to get the $100 gst credits, then by all means... even if the government is giving $100 for every year till i die, i'd pass and choose not to serve NS. Haha... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Application9999 Clutched February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 The fact is...he is not born here and did not go through the NS sh*t....PERIOD. If he want enjoy the same stuff like what we got...give up bolehland lah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twofouronenite 1st Gear February 13, 2009 Share February 13, 2009 Compete with us for HDB flat, contribute to the higher HDB price, Chomp parking lot say sorry I not S'porean, given citizenship hide behind parent. Wat frak excuse is this. Typical Fraking foreigner, wat the frak u want? Go back 2 ur own fraking country, fraker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirxe Clutched February 14, 2009 Share February 14, 2009 (edited) Pro-S'porean policy in jobs, housing impractical THE notion of a pro-Singaporean policy is noble but not practical. What many policymakers and many well-meaning citizens fail to recognise is that many Singaporeans are married to non-Singaporeans. Non-Singaporeans may, for one reason or another, not be in a position to take up Singapore citizenship. This may be because they have elderly parents in their native country or they do not meet general requirements to take up citizenship. As someone in this category, I find that this pro-Singaporean policy penalises this segment of the population. Over the years, we have contributed thousands of dollars to the Singapore economy, we pay taxes and levies and we have decided to setup of our family unit in Singapore. We have bought an HBD flat and look forward to being proud owners of a home in Singapore. I am not in a position to take up citizenship, as it is my responsibility to take care of my parents in Malaysia. They have chosen their home and I cannot, in good conscience, force them to relocate here. Imagine this. Our flat will be ready only in 2012. Of our two incomes, I earn more than my wife. My income pays for almost everything, including rent (which has increased astronomically). The cost of living has gone up, and even cooking at home is no cheaper then eating outside. Paying utility bills, insurance premiums, car loan, education loans and so on leaves us with just enough to make ends meet. In recent months, we have had to dip into our savings to pay for many things. We used to consider ourselves slightly better off than middle class, but now we are not even in that category. If I lose my job, because I am not a Singaporean, where would that leave us? Consider this as well. I pay goods and services tax (GST), income tax, Central Provident Fund (CPF) and every other payment as Singaporeans do, but I get few if any benefits. I do not get GST refunds; nor am I a beneficiary of any other monetary initiative to relieve the sufferings of Singaporeans, despite the fact that I am forming a family unit with a Singaporean in Singapore. Adrian Gopal After reading, I can only resort to doing what this FT does while speaking his native tongue. Shake my head from side to side. Edited February 14, 2009 by Nirxe ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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