Mazdaowner Moderator December 16, 2008 Share December 16, 2008 I guess so, I never had god fortune shining on me, buy 4D, Toto also never strike, so gave up buying years ago, just wishful thinking. You better go buy some. 20% to me can liow. if you win that is. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress Clutched December 16, 2008 Share December 16, 2008 (edited) Guess for me, thanks God that I was bless, each work that I did brings me to higher ground. never turned back, tho I have the chance. It was tough at first, remembering bargaining with my boss, 3 months into my work, to hold my pay when he wants to retrench me during the 97 crisis, but managed to prove to him after a further 3 months. Edited December 16, 2008 by Fortress Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglittlebean 3rd Gear December 16, 2008 Share December 16, 2008 I got one friend who just finished his contract with SAF last year.. now working as an interior designer in his own firm. Take home is double what he used to earned with SAF I think.. My own WO also has ORDed last 2 years ago. Just saw him when I went to a pub in Joo Chiat.. was quite shocked later when I know that he's the owner of the pub. Seems he's doing quite well though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Neutral Newbie December 16, 2008 Share December 16, 2008 SBS bus drivers nowadays are also known as bus captains. The word "captain" is abused liao. u are extremely bias toward them, give them a break frankly on a serious note, if not because of this group of people who sacrifice their youth who is going to shape our younger generation singaporean. we all agree 2yr is waste of time but it does help to shape us in our character. guys who have not been thru n.s will not appreciate warm of the home, motherly love. etc...(or rather tend to take it for granted). from an employer perspective, stating saf/polic experience does not add any advantage but rather disadvantage. is tough to re-shape their mindset to blend into the outside life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adwin Neutral Newbie December 16, 2008 Share December 16, 2008 hmm..... me working in the same line also dealing with marine communicating devices. Let's have kopi sometime. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_mel 1st Gear December 16, 2008 Share December 16, 2008 The only advantage in NS was that it opened our eyes wide to the inefficiency of the civil service on the whole and that the only way up the ladder was to suck up to your bosses. But 2 1/2 years to way too long to see all these sh*t. By the time we ORD, our female peers become bosses or even mothers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vblaster_w211 2nd Gear December 16, 2008 Share December 16, 2008 NSF was 2.5 yrs for commanders and 2 yrs for enlistees. Now, it's all aligned to 2 yrs due to better and more focused training. Still, we have to take things in perspective. 2 yrs vs the entire working life up to age 62 is really not that big a deal. As pointed out by others, National Svc is a quick way to grow up and face realities. As in any large organisation, I guess there're inefficiencies. But again, we have to take things in perspective. As for all the rantings on inefficiencies, have we noticed our armed forces are always the first around our region to be able to respond to real disasters? Remember the Tsunami? The SARS episode? Or how about the female journalist that survived a terrifying night when unrest broke out in Timor Leste under the protection of our Armed Forces, followed by a successful evacuation? That made such a deep impression on the journalist that she wrote her thanks, and she was a self proclaimed cynic of the SAF before that! Suddenly, she felt thankful for our boys in green. So yes, we all like to gripe and complain. But we should also remember more than that. Many NSmen, upon completing their 10 yr NS cycle, commented those were the best times of their lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidklt Supercharged December 16, 2008 Share December 16, 2008 I never felt my NS was a waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear December 17, 2008 Share December 17, 2008 Not forgetting how they put down terrorists swiftly in a SIA plane with passengers. Again, it is not easy to earn the bars, it should at least command some basic respect. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princey_anne 1st Gear December 17, 2008 Share December 17, 2008 Are ex-SAF regular officers sought after in the private sector? If someone writes that in his resume, will they look more attractive to potential employers? Any one worked with ex-officers before? Do they rate highly in terms of work ethics, maturity and analytical skills? LOL, one guy ex-NSF so call Army Officer made a mistake in his work and was told off. And he was so upset he went to toilet to cry and still under probation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator December 17, 2008 Share December 17, 2008 (edited) Same here, I was lucky to be in contact with my buds in the US, who got me a opening in that company. Rest was history. March 09, team reunion. US. I'm looking forward to seeing everyone again, after so many years. I really miss my sidearm. Guess for me, thanks God that I was bless, each work that I did brings me to higher ground. never turned back, tho I have the chance. It was tough at first, remembering bargaining with my boss, 3 months into my work, to hold my pay when he wants to retrench me during the 97 crisis, but managed to prove to him after a further 3 months. Edited December 17, 2008 by Mazdaowner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator December 17, 2008 Share December 17, 2008 Oi...you only see one side of the coin la, not all like that la, well, actually, some units, not all. I know, once I'm out of my unit, basket, sure kana trouble one. NS is what you make of it. My son in Navy now, enjoying every moment of it. The only advantage in NS was that it opened our eyes wide to the inefficiency of the civil service on the whole and that the only way up the ladder was to suck up to your bosses. But 2 1/2 years to way too long to see all these sh*t. By the time we ORD, our female peers become bosses or even mothers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress Clutched December 17, 2008 Share December 17, 2008 I can understand why the sidearm, there are many ought to be shot.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator December 17, 2008 Share December 17, 2008 You read my mind like an open book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress Clutched December 17, 2008 Share December 17, 2008 Tzu Sze strategy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator December 17, 2008 Share December 17, 2008 EYH! They made THAT into a Book also you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress Clutched December 17, 2008 Share December 17, 2008 Ha..., all these are for show,strategy are useful only if you know and use it correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_ong Neutral Newbie December 17, 2008 Share December 17, 2008 Guess, the world is cruel and may not be fair. Thank God that things turned out well for us. can me young fellow be considered as one and thanks god for turing out well for me too.. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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