Validity of Car built-in Camera for Claims

[Perrier]

I know that some of the bros here has either used their cell phone or invested in a built-in camera to record road conditions while driving.

 

Should an accident occurs, how valid is this piece of evidence to the insurer or police.

 

For example, can it be used as an evidence to civil sue a reckless driver who caused an accident. More importantly, can it be used as an evidence when there is a dispute during an insurance claim when one party denies or worse turn the story around.

 

An assumption is made at this point that the recording is of decent quality.

 

Thanks for your input.

[Unltd]

Yes, can be used for civil. Please check with a lawyer. But TP will not use it.

[Zuoom]

why will the TP not use it?

 

not certified?

no time, GPS location, speed stamping on video source?

 

or because of the reason along the lines of the video can be manipulated? ie: faked?

[Unltd]

No idea, my lawyer sent it in once. They wrote back saying noted, thats all... Better to check with your lawyer.... Or maybe TP.

[Tien]

any form of evidence is good, be it video, audio or still graphic.

 

only problem is that not 1 single evidence in insolation is good enough to nail the accused - you will need several evidence in order to "prove beyond reasonable doubt".

 

so yes, submit the video as evidence. plus the assessment of the IDAC, eye witness's statement, etc.

[Osiris]

My take is this. if u r really kiasu

 

if someone recklessly cut in front of you and bang into u and is capture on video, do not switch it off.

 

Get down, move in front of your car so that you can be capture on video of u taking photos of the accident.

Best is also get the other driver to be capture in video without his knowledge by asking him to inspect the damage

In this way it is very hard to fake him walking into the scene on video.

 

The video & photos will create a better picture for the insurance company to negotiate a settlement.

 

Another pointer may be not letting the other party know you have the video capture of the whole incident.

If he is honest, he will report as is.

 

If not, he report say u cut into his lane behind him, then with all your evidence, you simply point out he is lying and the credibility of his report drop to zero.

 

If you tell him, you have the video upfront, he may think of other ways to twist the report in his favour.

 

with more evidence, you are in a better position to substantiate your claim.

 

I was involved in a car park accident. Every1 say 50-50 case.

I was able to get enough evidence to support my case that the other driver was careless.

In the end. I won the case and get to keep my NCD.

Edited December 5, 2008 by Osiris

[Crusader75]

That is good to know that video evidence help to swing the judgment in your favour. Any recommendations for those 360 video?

[Osiris]

I am just using one that capture front of veh.

It's a cheapo one @ <$100.

Resolution isn't great but can see plate no.

 

But do you really need 360? 4 sides? No doubt it has a very comprehensive coverage.

 

even with 1 facing front, Say for e.g.

If someone filter lane and bang into your side. although it doesn't capture the incident, once you stop the car and start snapping photo, the video give u evidence of you being in your lane at a location that will match to your accident photo. meaning if u didn't move out of your lane, some1 must have move into yours.

 

Someone bang u from behind at a traffic light and claim you reverse.

Again, your video shows u are at a complete stop. photo u took matches location.

 

I think for $500, autobac selling one front facing camera with impact analysis software thingy. dunno how that works but if u have $$ to blow, can drop by there & see

Edited December 5, 2008 by Osiris

[Vinzy]

I have one which can only take video (inclusive of sound of course) , portable and easy to use. Once inside car just activate the gadget when you start driving and leave in on till you are getting off the car.

 

Recording duration between 2-3hrs and will auto rewrite once memory space is full.

(meaning if no accident then can don't bother checking the video, if got accident at least you know there is always memory space and the recording is still on).

 

Plug direct with attached USB to the pc for downloading of video to view. Its highly portable and easy to use.

 

I guess for anyone who is very kiasi or very sian of frontal accident with lots of dispute (other driver 's words against our own), then this video evidence will be real good. I got into chain accident before, all those driver who change their words while doing reporting at IDAC just pissed me off.

 

In case if accident happen, it's small enough to just hold in your hand and walk out and carry on taking video of the other party stepping out of his car, (eg. admit of guilt etc) like wat the previous postings said.

 

Anyone keen just msg me.

 

Less than $130. (if mass order maybe can get cheaper I guess)

Edited December 5, 2008 by Vinzy

[Vinzy]

Glad for you , did u show video evidence?

[Perrier]

Hi Osiris,

 

Thanks you and the rest for the replies.

 

I have heard of many incidences whereby there are no witnesses on a rainy day where one car collide with another car who has the right of way. In the end, its one drivers' word against the other. It is also frustrating when apart from having to pay partially for someone's fault, you lose your NCD of many years in one go.

 

Not to mention the number of egoistic drivers that roams our road today with e-braking stuns and daredevil lane changing.

 

I would view it as a kind of self-defense against rogue drivers or those rumored "accident creating" drivers from workshops that was posted in MCF previously.

 

Definitely good to know that it can be use in a way to protect and defend yourself in a case of an accident.

 

There is a bro who showed us the camera with G-sensors of the 3-axis that can record the impact direction, went to Autobacs and didn't see it.

 

Will do a search and post the link once found.

[Perrier]

 

Finally found it.

 

 

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/General_C1...mera_P2439158-2

[Osiris]

The device is on the 2nd floor of autobaccs in bukit batok (where they sell ICE).

Climb up the stairs and it's displayed near the entrance in a locked glass show case together with alarms they are selling.

 

agree with u. too many jokers who play on the road and try to avoid responsibility by writing false statement when something goes wrong.

 

Make sure the cam can capture night scene relatively well short of having a IR cam

Edited December 5, 2008 by Osiris

[CarNSpa]

any idea how much is it? can it really be use in the court

[Vinzy]

Night shots as i was driving home last night using the cam I got.

Not too bad I realised.

Edited December 6, 2008 by Vinzy

[Osiris]

i think is more than $500.

 

why do you think it is not admissable in court?

[Perrier]

Quite good resolution. The usual worry is the night shots.

[Perrier]

Thanks for the direction. No wonder I didn't managed to find it.... I only looked at the ground floor.