Should Cyclist be removed from Roads?

[Napoot]

 

 

[Napoot]

[Headshok]

My take is

 

if they want to cycle onthe road, make it a MUST for them to wear those luminous vests and lights ( for nite).

 

Also, make it such that, if an accident occurs ( car langa cyclist), the driver will not be held responsible. in fact should make the cyclist pay for any damages occured.

 

thus this will make pple think twice b4 they wanna go cycle on the road.

 

if the government die die want to make pple go green, either have a dam cycling lane for the cyclist,

 

OR

 

widen pavements and educate cyclist how to share pavement with people.

 

please do not flame me, but some of these cyclist don care for their lives and they are more of a hazard to us the drivers.

 

my 2 cents.

 

Cheers

[Stellamaris]

while u are at it, might as well ban pedestrians. no need for zebra crossings anymore.

 

pedestrians did not pay COE too, they get to use your road too.

[Terenc3]

Nope. Im a road cyclist myself. Its quite impossible for us to go onto pavements with our roadies. We cyclist have our fair share of weird drivers all around. Next, I'm a driver too, and yes, some cyclist are also daring enough not to care about their lives. All I can say is.. see luck.. Meet responsible road users, you're fine, if not.. Forgive and forget.. Hasha..

[Oregon]

I'm a roadie too and I pay a lot of road tax for 2 cars. Having ridden in developed countries and even in our neighbouring Malaysia, the courtesy extended to road cyclist is different as any roadie can testify. Perhaps there they have a less stressful and pressure cooker lifestyle and have time and patience to care for their fellow road users. I dunno - maybe our environment make us what we are....

[Requiemdk]

No. But LTA can really put in more effort than those half-a$$ed signs saying "cyclists ahead". I mean, seriously... what's a sign going to do? Then again, I cycle and drive and seriously, some drivers are one of a kind and seem to enjoy driving really close to cyclists at high speeds. On the other hand, there are also cyclists who don't care for their lives. You can spot the proper roadies - usually they're the ones wearing proper gear and have proper road etiquette like signaling and staying in the correct turning lanes. This kind of thing... will take a long time to improve lah. But banning cyclists from the road is definitely not one of the solutions.

 

Incidentally, it takes me half the time to cycle from my house to my workplace than if I were to take public transport in the mornings. That says quite a bit about our public transport....

[Jeffang]

some china cyclist is too much, they don't want their life but please don't sabo the driver!

[Scoots]

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some china cyclist is too much, they don't want their life but please don't sabo the driver!

 

Same for those in Little India too... witnessed a case where the rider just shot out from small road without even looking or slowing. The driver had to literally jam brake to avoid the bugger....

 

And while I'm at this, I'll add my 2 cents on this topic:

 

I can accept cyclists on the road who are using their cycles as a means of commuting. Of course, these riders should be responsible road users as well.

 

What I really cannot accept are riders who ride for recreation. Singapore roads are not designed to accomodate cyclists in the first place. And to have one or a pack of recreational riders taking up a lane or affecting other road users....

[Napoot]

And the leotard tight Lycra is really obscene...

[Throttle2]

There are bound to be axxxxxes in the roaduser population be it cars, buses, bikes etc....

So

Should all drivers be removed?

Should all motorbikers be removed?

Is it a question of road tax?

NO, NO, NO.

 

let's be objective. Remove the axxxxxes.

[Firefly968]

Education and licensing. Until then, there will be no control and any tom dick and harry can pick up their bicycles and cycle on the roads and pavements any how.

 

Yesterday afternoon, there were two young kids cycling towards me on the road racing each other and one is in my lane

Edited October 18, 2008 by Firefly968

[Fondue]

There are riders who ride for recreation and there are drivers who drive around for leisure. Should both not have the right to use the roads ?

 

The focus should be on promoting safe driving and riding rather than who should have higher priority to use the road

[Fondue]

And I think your poll is as neutral as the survey on how the residence in Tampines feel after the first trial on cycling on pavement.

[Poper]

If every driver drives considerably, accident with cyclists are just isolated cases. The problem with Singaporean is they are always rushing on the road and inconsiderate. Thus, we should examine ourselves instead of cyclists. Pay road-tax or not is not the key here.

 

I can agree that cyclist should be banned from the Expressway though..

[Scoots]

Well... for one. Drivers and riders pay road taxes... cyclists do not.

 

But there are more serious differences between a cyclist and a driver/rider (rider as in motorcycle rider) that do present a problem.

 

1.Drivers and riders need to pass driving/riding tests before being issued licenses to be on the road. A cyclist do not. As such, not all cyclists are 'certified' to know proper road etiquette/rules. Drivers and riders have no such excuse.

 

2.Drivers' and riders' vehicles have license numbers that makes it possible to identify any individual for any reporting purpose. Cyclists do not. A such, any errant cyclist cannot be reported to the ...err... traffic police? .. for traffic offence.

 

3.Drivers and riders have vehicle insurance coverage to cover for accident cases. Cyclists do not. If a cyclist were to cause an accident, it's likely that the drivers/riders cannot claim against the cyclist.(I know this point may come across as cruel. But the again, is it fair to the innocent rider/driver in such a case?)

 

4.Cars and motorcycles are required to go for inspection to ensure that that the vehicle is safe for use on the road. A bicycle does not have such regulations. A cyclist failing to brake in time can possibly lead to quite a disasterous outcome.

 

While I have all this misgivings, I'm already accepting that for commuting purposes, cyslists on the road can be accepted. Do you really think it's in the interest of cyclists and other road users to encourage recreational riding on Singapore roads?

Edited October 18, 2008 by Scoots

[Loki]

  Quote

some china cyclist is too much, they don't want their life but please don't sabo the driver!

 

Same for those in Little India too... witnessed a case where the rider just shot out from small road without even looking or slowing. The driver had to literally jam brake to avoid the bugger....

 

And while I'm at this, I'll add my 2 cents on this topic:

 

I can accept cyclists on the road who are using their cycles as a means of commuting. Of course, these riders should be responsible road users as well.

 

What I really cannot accept are riders who ride for recreation. Singapore roads are not designed to accomodate cyclists in the first place. And to have one or a pack of recreational riders taking up a lane or affecting other road users....

 

Actually, if traffic is light, I prefer recreational cyclists to ride in a pack and take up one lane. It's safer for them and for drivers. At least, you won't have idiot trucks trying to squeeze past the cyclist and eating into your lane.

[Nhyone]

Does this have anything to do with the WRX case?