Msimax Neutral Newbie October 5, 2008 Share October 5, 2008 just installed coilovers on fri & have been waiting for suspension to sit in. currently ride is positive camber & toe out for both front wheels. would like to seek opinions on CAMBER & TOE which i'll be doing soon once e camber screw is in. CAMBER was told for normal driving camber should set to -0.5 degree while for cornering purposes should set to -1 degree & finally track purposes -1.5 degree. is this correct? TOE is the normal toe ZERO? understand some stock cars are meant to be toe in. wat's e benefit for a car being toe in? will these 2 issues be resolved by computer alightment wkshops coz i don't have much of a choice. there's only 2 known with the correct software for my ride ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrynadz 5th Gear October 6, 2008 Share October 6, 2008 tried kenny? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msimax Neutral Newbie October 6, 2008 Author Share October 6, 2008 (edited) checked w him 2 wks ago, real pity he doesn't have e software for the car. my only options r City Auto & e one behind P H. btw for adjustment of TOE, need to purchase any specific tool to aid in e process? Edited October 6, 2008 by Msimax Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged October 6, 2008 Share October 6, 2008 Camber is correct. Normal toe depends on the car you have. On mine its factory specs are slight toe-in about 0.5 degrees. Toe in give straight line stability and slower steering resposne. Zero toe has the least tire scrub and hence is most friction-free. Toe out gives you better initial corner turn in due to the steering rack geometry. But it can feel nervous and darty on the highway particularly at higher speeds. Excessive toe in or out can lead to premature tire wear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky61 1st Gear October 6, 2008 Share October 6, 2008 for me,i go to kian teong. rwd, rear toe in a little, camber set at -1.5degree for frnt n rear. if go track set to -2.2degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msimax Neutral Newbie October 6, 2008 Author Share October 6, 2008 guys thanks for the comments, learnt that for my stock ride camber is factory set at -1.25 degree with lowered height in consideration, now camber is set to -1.02 degree & toe almost zero with a bit inclining to toe-in. cornering feels so much more ensuring now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky61 1st Gear October 6, 2008 Share October 6, 2008 glad to hear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qr25vet Clutched October 6, 2008 Share October 6, 2008 just installed coilovers on fri & have been waiting for suspension to sit in. currently ride is positive camber & toe out for both front wheels. would like to seek opinions on CAMBER & TOE which i'll be doing soon once e camber screw is in. CAMBER was told for normal driving camber should set to -0.5 degree while for cornering purposes should set to -1 degree & finally track purposes -1.5 degree. is this correct? TOE is the normal toe ZERO? understand some stock cars are meant to be toe in. wat's e benefit for a car being toe in? will these 2 issues be resolved by computer alightment wkshops coz i don't have much of a choice. there's only 2 known with the correct software for my ride try ASEOP automotive @ AMK ind park 2...the malay guy that does the alignment there is good... track purposes is not -1.5 deg la fren...mine is set @ -2.3 deg. normal driving 1 deg is just nice...for toe just go to your specs...if not can also adjust to your liking....toe in provides more stability wheras toe out gives a more responsive turn-in but makes the car twitchy if overdone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msimax Neutral Newbie October 6, 2008 Author Share October 6, 2008 sad fact is i don't drive a popular make so most wkshops shut me out. gd advise from u guys. 1 thing i found my steering is much firmer than stock even at 140. could it have been toe in due to uneven types scrub in? also just wondering if diff psi will affect e alignment process coz i was running lower psi for e types while waiting for suspension to sit in. was along e idea of saving e types then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qr25vet Clutched October 7, 2008 Share October 7, 2008 popular or not...this guy who does my alignment will take in no prob...my friends car (charade GTTI) and my ride (swift GTI) damn old liao...not many places have the specs also ma... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeobh 4th Gear October 9, 2008 Share October 9, 2008 Apparently those mechs providing wheel aligment services just do not have enough grounding on wheel geometry ( they are like blind sword men).If you cannot get the wheel alignment infos - use rule of thumb - search for cars with similar wheelbase, kerb weight and tyre sizes and use the info - doing minute adjsutments to suit your requirements. Almost all saloon cars front wheels are set at positive camber with toe in reading. Negative camber will need toe out reading. Camber and toe reading must be corresponding correct if not your ride will have a " crab-like " movments and resulting in excess tyre side wear. Also it is very dangeruous as yr ride front wheels losss thier ability to auto return to straight ahead position ( thats why all car inspection centres carried out mandatory wheel side slip test) To reduce yr rid steering road feeling, you can increase the wheel castor reading - too much may result in creating a "floating feeling" -too littel many put too much load on the wheel bearing and cause difficulties in steering control Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuo Neutral Newbie October 12, 2008 Share October 12, 2008 On uneven road, my wheels tend to pull to the left very significantly. What could be the cause? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msimax Neutral Newbie October 12, 2008 Author Share October 12, 2008 readjust camber to -1.25 w toe out 1 degree on sat. just went up north on sun n yup had more fun then before at high speed cornering! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeobh 4th Gear October 13, 2008 Share October 13, 2008 The possible causes can be due to loose front bearings ,ball joints or both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeobh 4th Gear October 13, 2008 Share October 13, 2008 Great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qr25vet Clutched October 14, 2008 Share October 14, 2008 but be careful cos the car is abit more twitchy than before due to the toe out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msimax Neutral Newbie October 14, 2008 Author Share October 14, 2008 point taken. so far so gd or maybe my cornering too slow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icetrap 2nd Gear October 16, 2008 Share October 16, 2008 That's sounds like a good settings. Anyway, drive slow, be safe. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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