Genie47 1st Gear August 3, 2008 Share August 3, 2008 Quote but i guess Turkish do not hate the Germans as much as the Morrocans/Tunisians hate the French. The Ottoman Turks and the Germans were allies in WWI. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear August 3, 2008 Share August 3, 2008 Its definitely a GM problem rather than a Opel problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidklt Supercharged August 3, 2008 Share August 3, 2008 ya, Germans are safe. French car quality suxs. Quote my friend you are hurting my feelings comparing the French to the German...(i have always own contis...my first was a Corsa GSI) The french are lovers and not engineers...the Germans are engineers and not lovers.... German engineering is good and reliable trust me... but only if you buy from the AD else PI's stock can be quite ahem... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary84 1st Gear August 3, 2008 Share August 3, 2008 Currently only the Passat R36 attracts me...For a price tag of 166k, its quite worthwhile given its promising specs... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord77 Neutral Newbie August 12, 2008 Share August 12, 2008 Hi all Forum Bros, need to rob this thread, can't post new thread yet cause i'm a newbie Just like to find out any bros out there driving the Peugeot 207? Any kind reviews will be appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress Clutched August 12, 2008 Share August 12, 2008 My personal opinion of the VW is that, it has a better first 4 years before things starts to fail....without fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullifi3d 4th Gear August 12, 2008 Share August 12, 2008 Hi pls visit http://www.peugeotsingapore.org/forum3/ind...f67f4ca863d0f87 for more info on Pugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakuii 1st Gear August 12, 2008 Share August 12, 2008 Try the VAG forum @ http://www.vagsg.com Some of the forumers there mentioned about rattling sound from their new VW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beng2 5th Gear August 14, 2008 Share August 14, 2008 The catchphrase at vagsg.com is "if it doesn't rattle, it ain't a VW" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicz Neutral Newbie August 15, 2008 Share August 15, 2008 I think nothing will not fail or nobody can gaurantee zero lemon. I don't think we should generalise brands or models/make. some people told me Honda sux too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magfocus 5th Gear August 15, 2008 Share August 15, 2008 Thats right, no matter what make/model, there are bound to be problems. Having said that, I would rather a car with some problems and is something I look forward to driving every morning, rather than a bland appliance thats mind numbingly reliable.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car_driver Neutral Newbie August 15, 2008 Share August 15, 2008 Yap, the Turks were "invited" into Germany to rebuild the country after WWII. The French were nasty colonial masters to the Morrocans/Tunisians.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Clutched August 15, 2008 Share August 15, 2008 i'm on my second VW based vehicle and none of them rattle...one was nearly 5 years and 170,000km on the clock i find them pretty reliable, easy to maintain and parts are generally cheaper that jap parts. of cource, you don't have to go to the AD for servicing.....cos they charge u an arm, a leg and other body parts ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veryfree Clutched August 15, 2008 Share August 15, 2008 i am not a VW fan, but i have a friend have been driving a used 5 years old Passat without a hint of problem. The body is as tough as nail. you probably won't find such quality from any Jap sedan. Even though Jap cars may have better reliability in the electrical, engine department; the common problem may be the rattling sound from its failing body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress Clutched August 15, 2008 Share August 15, 2008 Wasn't generalising...just stating a point factually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolie888 Clutched August 16, 2008 Share August 16, 2008 (edited) Quote I think nothing will not fail or nobody can gaurantee zero lemon. I don't think we should generalise brands or models/make. some people told me Honda sux too... Overall, VW as a brand, does not have a good reputation on reliability. From the "Australian New Car Buyer" 2008 magazine Issue 31, under 'Things You Might Not Like' for each of the VW models summarized: VW GOLF GT SPORT - Reliability continues to be an issue with the Golf VW GOLF - The usual VW reliability warning - A few squeaks and rattles in the cabin VW PASSAT - VW quality and reliability are inconsistent VW GOLF GTI - Reliability continues to be an issue with the Golf - A few squeaks and rattles in the test car VW JETTA - Lots of squeaks and rattles in the test car VW EOS - VW's reliability record isn't great Now, I have not seen such recurring, repetitive and consistent remarks on a brand's UNreliability and squeaks/rattles across nearly the ENTIRE RANGE of cars it makes. Not in this same magazine, or for that matter, any other magazine. The 'scene' is no different in UK and USA mags too, where reliability is a let down for the VW range too, especially the more-recent (1990-onwards) cars that they make. * The Golf III / Jetta III / Scirroco range in the late 80's were built like tanks. Then from the Golf IV / Vento / Corrado range in the early 90's, it was downhill all the way for VW, in terms of overall quality. Someone had mentioned JD Powers ranking in this thread too. Now ALL of the reviewers, ALL over the world, cannot be ALL wrong, can they? There has to be some truth to all that. And I am one living proof, having owned a VW before and don't think will ever consider buying another one. The usual stuff - squeaks and rattles like forever, power windows that keep failing one after another. Edited August 16, 2008 by Jolie888 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raudie Neutral Newbie August 16, 2008 Share August 16, 2008 Probably depends on which make VW is compared to. And the expectations. VW is not a premium brand, even though they try to portray that in SG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolie888 Clutched August 16, 2008 Share August 16, 2008 (edited) Agree that VGS is trying really very hard to protray VW as a premium brand, only here in SG, when it actually is not anywhere else in the world - e.g. Europe and the USA. Their sales margin (selling price less OMV-multiplier and COE) is nearly equivalent to what PA is realizing for Audis! The difference is, at least, Audi is considered a premium brand. Edited August 16, 2008 by Jolie888 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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