To leave in neutral?

[Etnt]

10 minutes ago, 13177 said:

I have this impression only those taxi drivers or PHV drivers would always like to shift the gear to N and then back to D whenever they stopped. I find it quite irritating if i sit in a taxi/PHV that the driver keeps shifting the gear.

They will do whatever they THINK can save some fuel, whether real or not. Car not really theirs snyway

[Jamesc]

Some people worry shifting to N spoil your gearbox.

They guess one or got scientific evidence.

I say its not N but shifting to D that spoils the gear box.

All scientific evidence have shown that gearbox all spoil

when owners kept shifting to D.

Never put it in D and your gearbox will never spoil.

That's a scientific fact.

Edited June 22, 2022 by Jamesc

[Jamesc]

Some people keep saying

Keep in D and press brake

cheaper to wear out the brake pads.

You are not wearing out the brake pads at all

when you keep in D and press brake.

No movement means no friction

means no wear and tear at all.

People don't even know this

and think they are experts

and want to give advice.

[Vratenza]

47 minutes ago, 13177 said:

I have this impression only those taxi drivers or PHV drivers would always like to shift the gear to N and then back to D whenever they stopped. I find it quite irritating if i sit in a taxi/PHV that the driver keeps shifting the gear.

they are probably too bored and need to play with their "sticks".....🤪

[Jamesc]

If I have to stop for more than 30 seconds I always pull hand brake

and put to N and rest my foot.

I never worry putting to N will spoil my gearbox

because I know its putting to D that will wear out the gearbox.

Less than 30 seconds stop I keep it in D and press the brake.

I never worry this will wear out my brake pads

became I know no movement, no friction there is no wear on the brakes.

Now you know too.

Your also no need to worry.

Let the newbies ask

should put to D or press brake

and ask them if more or less than 30 seconds.

Edited June 22, 2022 by Jamesc

[RadX]

14 years later and we still have this qn 🤦🏾‍♂️

[Jamesc]

Too many people they think they know everything

and they like to tell people what to do.

Don't change to N it will up lorry your gearbox.

Or put in D press brake press brake.

Press brake wear out you brake pads faster.

Now next time someone post this

you know it's BS.

[Jamesc]

The only constant in life.

People don't know they just BS.

People listen to the BS and they just keep repeating it.

Break the cycle.

 

[Watwheels]

10 hours ago, yellowshaun said:

This question has been on mind although for a different reason... I was thinking about whether good to engage handbrake (yes my car still has a physical handbrake, not a button) while at a long traffic light, and therefore whether to shift to N while doing that...

 

So I read thru the whole thread... And googled for updated car website advice:

https://www.autodeal.com.ph/articles/car-features/it-better-shift-neutral-or-stay-in-drive-stop

Autodeal PH says doesn't matter whether shift to N or keep in D. Up to you.

https://www.topgear.com.ph/columns/motor-mouth-online/should-you-really-shift-to-neutral-when-stuck-in-traffic

Top gear PH says YES shift to N!

https://www.wapcar.my/news/regular-at-vs-dct-should-you-hold-it-in-d-or-in-n-while-in-traffic-3424

Wapcar interviewed the car manufacturers and short answer is that it depends on the transmission.

 

So anyway back to my initial question, do you use the handbrake for long traffic light stops and if so, do you shift to N?

It really depends on the transmission is using a torque converter or clutch.

For gear pinion auto and cvt they are using a torque converter, a fluid drum. When the car is at the stop position the tc will have most of the fluid drained so it will not cause any wear or burn more fuel or overheat. So it is ok to leave the transmission in "D". 

For manual and dual clutch or single clutch transmissions there is one or two clutch pad or packs. They work on the same principal of engaging and disengaging the clutch. So like the manual transmission it is better to put it in "N". 

[Vratenza]

22 minutes ago, RadX said:

14 years later and we still have this qn 🤦🏾‍♂️

Our Singapore road condition damn terok you dunnoe meh?

Even C&C/BMW only cover engine 10yr warranty....tranny not covered hor😁

Not sure if our cars will outlast the 10yr COE if we don't pamper them....😁

for you, you only have to worry about your parking brake wearing out....🤣

Edited June 22, 2022 by Vratenza

[13177]

1 hour ago, RadX said:

14 years later and we still have this qn 🤦🏾‍♂️

Another 14 years later will still have this qn de. 😂

[Watwheels]

14 years ago dont have fancy automated dual or single clutch(not so common). And most of the the auto gear is only like 4-5 ratios.

14 years later if you are driving an EV they only have one or two gear ratios and have no clutch or torque converters.

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Watwheels

[RadX]

25 minutes ago, Watwheels said:

14 years ago dont have fancy automated dual or single clutch(not so common). And most of the the auto gear is only like 4-5 ratios.

14 years later if you are driving an EV they only have one or two gear ratios and have no clutch or torque converters.

 

Then new qn will comenup

 

 must switch off car

must press brake

must off radio?

 

 

bring em on 

[RadX]

34 minutes ago, Watwheels said:

14 years ago dont have fancy automated dual or single clutch(not so common). And most of the the auto gear is only like 4-5 ratios.

14 years later if you are driving an EV they only have one or two gear ratios and have no clutch or torque converters.

 

Maybe 14 years later this le… got neutral?

 

 

[Vratenza]

27 minutes ago, RadX said:

Then new qn will comenup

 

 must switch off car

must press brake

must off radio?

 

 

bring em on 

14yrs later.....best to charge till 80% or leave it to the EV computer to decide?

[inlinesix]

20 minutes ago, RadX said:

Maybe 14 years later this le… got neutral?

 

 

Got motor or not?

[RadX]

3 minutes ago, Vratenza said:

14yrs later.....best to charge till 80% or leave it to the EV computer to decide?

As is, “range anxiety” is real and im sure that will top the list of questions 

[Vratenza]

All these question can be easily answered with: RTFM (paper or electronic version)

I think everyone feels that they are smarter than the engineering team who designed the gearbox and the TCU/ECU program.

Just like the age old "advise" to let your car idle for a few minutes to warm up after starting cold.....car manual will just tell you to just drive off and don't ram your accelerator until the engine oil is up to temperature...even then the modern ECU will not even allow you to full throttle down/activate launch control mode until the conditions are "safe".