Is there a rule to forbid dropping passeger near bus-stop ?

[Curahee]

My friend kena summon before from plain clothing guy station at bus stop. Get the summon letter a few days after the incident. Be careful. No TP doesn't mean safe.

[Boyboy]

ur action simply delayed a bus load of people who may be rushing for time too

 

 

u mentioned in the morning, most likely its peak hours.

 

if i were in the bus, i would be equally pissed too.

 

totally no consideration.

 

but taxi would do that? would you "scold" the taxi driver, or would you practice double standards?

[Drive_carcar]

Sometimes u dun need rules in black and white to govern every aspect. Such things fall under the "be considerate" jurisdiction.

 

Yah the golden rule..... when not sure, choose the most safe and considerate option.

[Eversman]

tot cant park within 9 metres of bus stop as from basic theory

[Carnewbie321]

YOu are right about the double zigzag. But wrong on the double yellow.

I know that double yellow in most country is NO STOPPING AT ALL, and an immediate drop off will get you a ticket. And they enforce it. So like Hong Kong, I will never stop for any purpose for double yellow. But this is Singapore, if you check their rules, again, double yellow and single zigzag, you are ALLOWED to drop off or pickup. Only double zigzag you are not allowed to do so. I believe all these zig zag thing is unique to Singapore, most other countries follow basic traffic rules and double yellow is sufficient.

 

 

As I have already stated in my post #2432028, you are wrong about your understanding of unbroken double yellow lines in your post #2427105.

 

You are still wrong about your understanding of unbroken double yellow lines in your post #2432364. You continue to claim that it is OK to stop at unbroken double yellow lines for drop off or pick up.

 

Get this FACT straight: it is an offence to stop for whatever reason at unbroken double yellow lines. The rule that refers to this is Rule 91(b) of the Highway Code.

 

This FACT is mentioned in the following court case:

http://www.ipsofactoj.com/archive/1990/Par...1990(9)-010.htm

 

Scroll down to para 16 (iv).

 

The reason there are zigzag yellow lines in Singapore is that the normal unbroken yellow line offences do not allow for demerit points. Since too many drivers ignore the rule and just get off by paying a fine, a more effective deterrent is needed. Hence the zigzag lines which come with demerit points.

 

You have obviously failed to see the differences in the offences as mentioned in my post #2432028.

 

Ha ha ha !! I am absolutely sure that it is alright to stop a car at continuos double yellow line for picking up a passenger or alighting a passenger. If it is an offence, I am witnessing many car drivers and taxi drivers committing that offence everyday and every minute.

 

I am however, not too sure about whether stopping within 9m of a bus-stop on a conitnuous double yellow line for alighting a passenger is an offence.

[Carnewbie321]

" tot cant park within 9 metres of bus stop as from basic theory "

 

I am aware of the above rule but i am not sure if stopping to drop off a passenger within 9 meters of a bus-stop is OK. By the way, I wonder if the TP differentiate among parking ( no driver in the car ), stopping a car to wait ( longer stopping duration ) and stopping to alight a passenger ( much shorter duration ).

[Josho]

You can do anything but dun be caught. If your wife had prepared to alight, that will be just 30sec or so. Of course, please do go infront of the bus stop to do that.

 

I take bus as well and many times I seen cars stop by the bus stop is really pain in da ass, esp those who stopped there and treat nothing happen. Bus honked you because of peak hour.

 

Cheers

[Galantspeedz]

The thread starter used specific situation, he did not stop in the bus stop, he stop at double line after the bus stop.

 

I am not sure about the 9metres thing, so no comment. Technically, if its double yellow line, you can stop for immediate drop off. That is in basic theory, it is OK to do so. Only double zigzag is NO drop off. single zigzag also can immediate dropoff. THe bus stop got nothing to do, assuming there is no 9m rule thing.

 

But again, annoying people is another thing, depending on the traffic, just like stupid taxi suddenly stopping to drop customer, just piss people off. Sometimes it makes people's life better if you stop further away and not add to the congestion.

 

 

 

You may like to know that you are wrong in several areas.

 

Double yellow line:

No stopping - even for one second. Penalty: fine only.

 

Double zigzag:

No stopping. Penalty: Fine PLUS demert points.

 

So, can you see the difference? Whatever the line, straight or zigzag, double yellow = NO STOPPING AT ALL. The penalty for getting caught is different. Plain double yellow line = fine only, no points. Zigzag double yellow line = fine plus demerit points. Get it?

 

Refer to this website:

http://driving-in-singapore.spf.gov.sg/ser...ps/offences.htm

 

Look under the heading 3 Demerit Points.

 

The offences of Parking within a Demerit Points No Parking Zone (ie single zigzag line) and Stopping within a Demerit Points No Stopping Zone (ie double zigzag line) are clearly stated.

 

Eh... i rem it was mentioned before (forget is LTA or TP) it is ok to stop for awhile at double yellow line. which is why all or most post boxes are by the road.

[Galantspeedz]

30 sec to alight? must say bye bye, give a goodbye kiss, followed by a discussion on what time to pick up after work?

 

10 secs is more than enough.

[Galantspeedz]

whatever it is, just be considerate next time. It does not matter if it is an offence or not. If you are blocking the bus, you deserved to be horn.

 

So next time, just alight your wife further away or if no choice have to block the bus way then pls ask your wife to alight ASAP.

[Ultramega]

tot is cannot park 6 metres from bus stop?

 

9 metres is junction, right?

 

and 3 metres - fire hydrant?

Edited June 30, 2008 by Ultramega

[Josho]

window period ma. hee.. if to stop at bus stop area, prepared to get stared. Because I often stared at drivers when the bus passes them at bus stop. We still got to stand while driver get to sit

[Galantspeedz]

Are you trying to hope for a pretty ;ady drive with nice legs and deep lonkang?

[Josho]

shhh...

 

no la... whoever it is, I stare it because obstructing ma.

[Dafansu]

" tot cant park within 9 metres of bus stop as from basic theory "

 

I am aware of the above rule but i am not sure if stopping to drop off a passenger within 9 meters of a bus-stop is OK. By the way, I wonder if the TP differentiate among parking ( no driver in the car ), stopping a car to wait ( longer stopping duration ) and stopping to alight a passenger ( much shorter duration ).

 

park and stop are two different thing

 

under road traffic act cap 276

 

"park" means to bring a motor vehicle or a trailer to a stationary position and cause it to wait for any purpose other than that of immediately taking up or setting down persons, goods or luggage;

 

as defined in this act "for any purpose other than that of immediately taking up or setting down persons, goods or luggage". which means that boarding and alighting of persons are not consider as park.

 

 

As such under the offence act it is clearly defined as no parking within xxmeters, which means that u still can stop and alight passenger. This is different from Double Zigzag line whereby no stopping is allowed.

Edited June 30, 2008 by Dafansu

[Thug]

Its doesn't seem to be a big deal dropping off someone infront of a bus stop.

But if TS dropped his passenger after the bus stop...the bus could still stop at the bus stop let pple up or down...this way nobody get delayed...

 

I think u are stressed...relaxxx

[Titanj]

Thread starter just wanted to get an simple answer that's all. Frankly speaking i dun think he is being inconsiderate. Just imagine you need to drop someone along that road but a bus is following you closely behind...does that means you dun stop? We are all drivers too and i dun see why the need for the bus to honk continuously since it could be just a 10sec thing. It is not a bus lane btw. It is not wrong to drop off passenger. Just remember to switch on the hazard lights in advance. Peace !

 

http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onem...estriction.html

 

Definition of Parking

Motorists should also be aware that the legal definition of parking is to bring a motor vehicle or a trailer to a stationary position and cause it to wait for any purpose other than that of immediately taking up or setting down persons, goods or luggage.

 

Stopping inside bus bay - wrong

Parking within 9 meters of bus bay - wrong

stoppping 5 meters after bus bay to drop passenger - can't find anything from LTA to say it is wrong.

[Comfy]

last time i see one private passenger car driver, think he have every right of way at bus bay of bus stop......

 

wait for passenger long long and then when honk by bus still show vulgar sign.

 

that fella ought to be shot..