Schmi Clutched May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 Singapore wins Pedra Branca Malaysia wins Middle Rocks and Southern Ledge ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1dada Neutral Newbie May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/PEDRA_BRAN...375101/#2375101 LOL late 1 min 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixiz Clutched May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 So Overall do we still lose out ? Sounds like Singapore 1 --- 2 Malaysia lei ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzrmazda3 6th Gear May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 What type of judgement is this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altivo 3rd Gear May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 we got the island... they got a cluster of rocks and an elevation which is submerged during high tide.... in other words, we got the fish and they got the hay-bee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive_carcar Clutched May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 Maybe I'm not so patriotic. I just don't know what's the big fuss about a pile of rock in the middle of the sea. Exactly like you have said, during high tide it'll probably be submerged, and maybe 1 more tsunami later, it don't exist anymore. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixiz Clutched May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 Wah ...like that seems very complicating lei ... wouldn't it cause more tension ? From the map shown . It's seems that the distance is very near between the Rocks and island... It's like Singapore had the house. Malaysia had the door ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altivo 3rd Gear May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 hmm...it's not being patriotic... it's more of being aware and well-informed. Bro chickenfarm has done a good job in summarizing it up. See below link http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/gforum.cgi...2374352#2374352 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altivo 3rd Gear May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 yup... the focus will now be the waters around the island and rocks and who owns it and by how much... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock 1st Gear May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 Maybe I'm not so patriotic. I just don't know what's the big fuss about a pile of rock in the middle of the sea. Exactly like you have said, during high tide it'll probably be submerged, and maybe 1 more tsunami later, it don't exist anymore. Radarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr................... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rncw 5th Gear May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 the 2 other rocks are nothing...the lighthouse is very crucial for shipping... So Overall do we still lose out ? Sounds like Singapore 1 --- 2 Malaysia lei ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nhrisuzu 1st Gear May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 this pile of rocks means alot in terms of our territory.. there is the EEZ etc.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenfarm Turbocharged May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 (edited) Exclusive Economic Zone which stretches from the coastline of Pedra Branca to a distance of 2 nautical miles... Bottomline is; u can do whatever u wish within this EEZ including the mining of natural resources if any. And of course the right of passage of commercial vessels into Singapore waters and sea ports via this route Edited May 23, 2008 by Chickenfarm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenfarm Turbocharged May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 Tango Yankie... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vroomtattat 2nd Gear May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 So Overall do we still lose out ? Sounds like Singapore 1 --- 2 Malaysia lei ... Our pie is bigger, they got part of the crust and a piece of rock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenfarm Turbocharged May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 (edited) In short; dun just think abt. the waters around the rocks...think abt the waters all the way from Singapore to the lighthouse...these belongs to Singapore. And of course there is no such thing as 2 nautical miles in Singapore and MY waters cos we are too close to each other so an imaginary line has to be drawn in the middle and that includes the demarcation between the lighthouse and Middle Rocks and South Ledge. But the important note is vessels can still come in via Singapore's segment of territorial waters over there instead of making a big detour which merchants may give Singapore a miss due to that Edited May 23, 2008 by Chickenfarm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolffish Clutched May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 Always thot EEZ is 200 nau. miles..... maybe i am wrong. Personally , very happie cos still can go Horsburgh fishing.......tho current there is terrible... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenfarm Turbocharged May 23, 2008 Share May 23, 2008 (edited) U're right bro...I'm the one who is mistaken abt. the figures here Under UNCLOS, territorial waters stretches from our shoreline to a distance of 2 nautical miles. Beyond that there is still the EEZ which is 200 nautical miles so that adds up to the original demarcation I left that 200 miles out bcos we don't really have that luxury over here Time for me to do some revision liao Thanks for highlighting the descrepancy bro Edited May 23, 2008 by Chickenfarm ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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