Boyboy 1st Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 (edited) Lapses were not systemic, says MHA YOUR editorial yesterday, 'Were failings systemic?' questioned whether the breach of security at Whitley Road Detention Centre (WRDC) is a 'systemic contagion or the personal failing of only certain staff', and 'the appropriate level of culpability (that) should be drawn'. As Deputy Prime Minister Wong Kan Seng has explained in Parliament, the Committee of Inquiry (COI) did inquire into all aspects of the circumstances relating to the escape of Mas Selamat at the WRDC, including whether the lapses were the result of individual action or omission, or were they due to systemic issues. Although the COI made recommendations to strengthen or improve the WRDC's systems and processes, it found that the custodial protocols and procedures of WRDC to be generally sound. The principal security lapses occurred because specific individuals had failed to observe these protocols and procedures. For instance, it was the WRDC Superintendent's wrong decision which resulted in the failure to secure the toilet ventilation window, which in turn enabled Mas Selamat to escape. These were specific faults, not a 'systemic contagion'. As DPM Wong also stated, the Ministry of Home Affairs will be taking action against the officers responsible for Mas Selamat's escape, including not just the junior officers but also the supervisory and management levels. There is, therefore, no basis for the editorial to suggest that 'it is usually small fish that get fried'. There is a due process to be followed and the outcome will be made known in due course. Toh Yong Chuan Press Secretary to DPM and Minister for Home Affairs EDITOR'S NOTE: For the record, this was what our editorial said: 'If it is determined there was only one weak link, at junior escort level, then the people should stop carping about why it is usually small fish that get fried.' http://www.straitstimes.com/ST%2BForum/Sto...ory_230802.html Edited April 25, 2008 by Boyboy ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearoil 1st Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 These are the eventual results if you run a place with a 'climate of fear'....you can restrict the blame only to a certain level and nobody dare to question the top... I do not pity those who were sacked neithier do I pity the entire population if they get the eventual backlash from this escape....becos they were told ( many, many times) if you continue to be allowed to be ruled under a climate of fear...you have no option but to be subjected to all these 'injustice'! Things have a way to come back round to haunt those who think that as long as I am comfortable why should I risk it all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoonz 4th Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 Tell ah wong to punish himself first lah... Lead by example mah... Stop bloody hiding behind ah loong lah... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zniper 2nd Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 tis is how our P*P works... so guys, u noe who to vote for during another voting few yrs later... dun be scared of having new rulers may not work as fine as tis, but tink of wat if the new rulers tink more for the people?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Header Clutched April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 No security / operations audit - if there is, the covered stairway and the toilet window will be corrected. No drill on what to do if lost sight of prisoner - if there is, it will not take 4 px to open a toliet door. No drill on finding prisoner - if there is, info released to public will be complete and not piecemeal. No SOP and no audit and a complanecy culture from top level downards. If these are not systematic, what is?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboy 1st Gear April 25, 2008 Author Share April 25, 2008 what is systemic is the way in which the u-know-who hangs on to power, at great cost to the people, the nation, and eventually, themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoonz 4th Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 Think they are ones that are complacent... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Header Clutched April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 I will do the same if I were him. Dont u love ur family??? Or naive pple think he loves fellow citizen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoots 3rd Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 (edited) Folling the rationale of our PM, Rice is rice. lapses are lapses. Systematic or sporadic, a lapse is still a lapse. Edited April 25, 2008 by Scoots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboy 1st Gear April 25, 2008 Author Share April 25, 2008 i meant the party, actually individual? haizzzz... then again, there's one individual who's like that, and his surname ain't WONG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo 1st Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 tis is how our P*P works... so guys, u noe who to vote for during another voting few yrs later... dun be scared of having new rulers may not work as fine as tis, but tink of wat if the new rulers tink more for the people?? ya.. for me i think after so long, things haven't got better only worst. SMLJ peace and prosperity. work @ss off bank account also kosong, all kena hidden taxes, every few weeks and month come curi my paycheck. no point having more guud years if they not gg to b my guud years. bolt some1 else.. how else bad can it get when already so bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoots 3rd Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 (edited) I think the "More Good Years" wasn't referring to us.... Edited April 25, 2008 by Scoots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 4th Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 i dun think the lapses are just a combination of factors that allowed MS to escape. but as they correctly identified, the most damning mistakes were three fold: the guard leaving MS out of sight, the absence of a grill on the window and the poor design of the fence. but i dun agree when they say that there is 'no basis for the editorial to suggest that it is usually small fish that get fried'. ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoots 3rd Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 Ya lor .... Usually, small fish taste better fried mah .... I mean, whoever heard of steamed ikan bilis? Or steamed silverfish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboy 1st Gear April 25, 2008 Author Share April 25, 2008 u mean that u agree with the editorial? well, it's when "press secretary" replies to the press like this, that u know the letter writer/reporter, has struck a raw nerve the truth hurts but i think some of them up there must still be in denial, putting up a front for everyone to see. maybe when they go home they will crack and cry. who knows? i may sound harsh or evil or anti-gahmen, but seriously, i just hope for them to wakeup their idea, not for some reform party to take over as ruling party. singaporeans may indeed be complacent, but it all starts at the top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboy 1st Gear April 25, 2008 Author Share April 25, 2008 i like my bigger fish fried also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 4th Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 ..... yah, he's e DPM... too big to fit into the frying pan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 4th Gear April 25, 2008 Share April 25, 2008 its good to have a wake up call now and then ... keep ppl on their toes ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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