Boyboy 1st Gear March 9, 2008 Share March 9, 2008 which track are u referring to? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upandcoming Neutral Newbie March 9, 2008 Share March 9, 2008 worth to note that the 08 series out soon ..i.e. 208 and 308..making a 307 purchase outdated; focus is a bit high side consume Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surferguy1978 1st Gear March 9, 2008 Share March 9, 2008 oops misinterpreted wrongly. tot tat refering to focus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surferguy1978 1st Gear March 9, 2008 Share March 9, 2008 oh ok... need to update myself loh... then which conti car tat cost around 75k have a side airbags and curtain airbags? i think this is kinda important for me also cos nearly got involve in an accident whereby a car nearly hit my front passenger side door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear March 9, 2008 Share March 9, 2008 if your colleague is looking at Focus, then for Peugeot, it shd be 307 instead for a fair comparision. For conti in this class, you can also look at C4, Astra, Megane and maybe Golf but then, it's 1.6fsi, not GTI. There's already some very detail discussion in here. Try searching for it. tried persuading her to get the astra gtc & golf... but she is more for the focus and 207. if i am not wrong 307 is being phased out hence the 207 or at least thats what the sales person told us last week. budget ard $70k hence limits the hot hatches like gti, gt and st. If 307 is going to be phased out, then there's going to be a 308.. How can 207 be bump up o replace 307...it's either i'm wrong or the french like to joke. beside the Astra GTC, there's still the 1.6MTA which she can consider along side with Focus. anyway, when people want to buy car, let them decide for themselve. Make any suggestion and if things goes wrong, she will have one less people to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear March 9, 2008 Share March 9, 2008 Yes, that is very true. It is seriously underpowered. I am running on 17" as well so you can imagine. Nonetheless, it is an excellent car with excellent handling. It feels somewhat like the E46 3 series. Only let down is the engine. Regent Motors should bring in at least a 1.8 for the model. agree!!! if the engine is responsive enough, it would have won hands down over the others.. but alas, the world is never perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear March 9, 2008 Share March 9, 2008 maybe u wanna wait for the new facelift focus to come it. it look nice to me though. heard that focus have the best handling among all the conti car in the same class. haven't test drive yet though. actually the handling between Astra and Focus are quite on par.. just the focus's rear suspension is better.. and overall feel is better.. and in term of interior look, the astra just feel much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear March 9, 2008 Share March 9, 2008 focus is not only the best in ride/handling in its class, but also safe (NCAP 5 star). realiability wise, it is also more reliable than VW. the reason for its poor sale is because there is only 1 engine choice (compared to VW which has so many). While the engine is reliable, its under powered and not as refined. Also, the brand name - Ford does not stir anything in anyone. it'll take another 20-30 years to change the perception of the brand name. That's about how long Toyota built its name too. It took almost 100 years for mercedes to build its name to this day... so, its not easy to change people's perception of a brand once its name damaged. Bro, NCAP testing normally includes side impact and pole tests - both of which the selling-in-Singapore Focus could not have done well as it does not have side airbags and curtain airbags. How this affects the 5-star rating, I don't know. at least 1.5 star is not shining better bring a few plastic bag and blow into it when the passenger sense danger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear March 10, 2008 Share March 10, 2008 i rate it a 7.5/10 cause i gave lotus elise a 9.9/10 ley... the best i have tried so far... focus is quite underpowered for me too... seems a bit reluctant to overtake at times... of course cannot compare to Lotus elise lah but the handling of the Focus is definately better than most sedan in it's range. Power and handling is different issue ley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear March 10, 2008 Share March 10, 2008 kind of weird you should say that, as Henry Ford invented the mass produced automobile and Ford is one of the oldest manufacturers of cars, even older than Daimler Benz or Ferdinand Porsche. Ford Mustang has always been a favourite among muscle car fans. And stir passions it does.... focus is not only the best in ride/handling in its class, but also safe (NCAP 5 star). realiability wise, it is also more reliable than VW. the reason for its poor sale is because there is only 1 engine choice (compared to VW which has so many). While the engine is reliable, its under powered and not as refined. Also, the brand name - Ford does not stir anything in anyone. it'll take another 20-30 years to change the perception of the brand name. That's about how long Toyota built its name too. It took almost 100 years for mercedes to build its name to this day... so, its not easy to change people's perception of a brand once its name damaged. in the 70's, it's know to be a rust bucket leh, my dad's Escort starts to rust when it was in it's 3 year, it's the perception here in SG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comfy 1st Gear March 10, 2008 Share March 10, 2008 ya, i know i can't compare directly. just giving a scale to it la... ST looks yummy fast... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear March 10, 2008 Share March 10, 2008 Yes, that is very true. It is seriously underpowered. I am running on 17" as well so you can imagine. Nonetheless, it is an excellent car with excellent handling. It feels somewhat like the E46 3 series. Only let down is the engine. Regent Motors should bring in at least a 1.8 for the model. Wow...17"! Then i suppose your FC muz be real bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear March 10, 2008 Share March 10, 2008 oh ok... need to update myself loh... then which conti car tat cost around 75k have a side airbags and curtain airbags? i think this is kinda important for me also cos nearly got involve in an accident whereby a car nearly hit my front passenger side door. Most of the conti cars on sale currently with at least 6 airbags will have side/curtain airbags. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear March 10, 2008 Share March 10, 2008 I've sat in a ST before in carpark rally at expo. It was amazing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic March 10, 2008 Share March 10, 2008 if your colleague is looking at Focus, then for Peugeot, it shd be 307 instead for a fair comparision. For conti in this class, you can also look at C4, Astra, Megane and maybe Golf but then, it's 1.6fsi, not GTI. There's already some very detail discussion in here. Try searching for it. For the Golf, wait for the new 1.4TSI with 7spd DSG gearbox It should arrive on 3rd quarter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comfy 1st Gear March 10, 2008 Share March 10, 2008 never sat in one ST yet... currently in with elise... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear March 10, 2008 Share March 10, 2008 the price is not really in line with what the TS is asking for. for myself, I think I will get a bigger car.. maybe a TDi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear March 10, 2008 Share March 10, 2008 ya, i know i can't compare directly. just giving a scale to it la... ST looks yummy fast... oh yes, ST will be ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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