User12343 Clutched December 26, 2007 Share December 26, 2007 STEP on the gas. More motorists are choosing to do exactly that these days. More than 220 have had their cars converted to run on both compressed natural gas (CNG) and petrol. About 200 more have bought manufacturer-assembled petrol-CNG passenger cars, also called 'bi-fuel' cars. Out to save the earth and save some money too, they say high petrol prices plus a generous green tax rebate helped them make the switch. The trend started late last year, when passenger cars were allowed to be fitted to run on CNG as well as petrol. Most conversions were done initially by German company C Melchers GmBH and local firm Scantruck Engineering, both of which started conversions in earnest late last year at their respective workshops in Sungei Kadut and Tuas. Two other firms have started offering the service - parallel importer Mova Automotive and Thai company SO NGV. Most of the directly imported bi-fuel cars are Mercedes-Benzes. Converting a car costs from around $3,000 and involves installing a gas tank, pipings to the engine, and a refuelling intake. But customers usually recoup their outlay within two years as CNG retails at around 78 cents an equivalent litre. Petrol goes for about $1.90 a litre. Product manager Lim Sim Leng, 45, owner of a converted Mercedes-Benz Vito van, readily attests to this. 'A tank of CNG costs me $11, and will give me 190 to 200km. Using petrol for the same distance, I would have to spend at least double that,' he said. A petrol-electric hybrid car like the Toyota Prius would chalk up about 8.4 cents per km, compared with 7 cents for a car running on CNG and 18 cents for a conventional petrol car. Information technology manager Adrian Koh, 34, noticed a slight power loss in his Chevrolet Optra after it was converted. 'But I don't mind since I don't drive like a race car driver,' he said. Project manager Ang Kwang Wee, 46, was impressed by his savings. 'I never knew the mileage was so good. I travelled 2,350km last month and my total fuel spending was $227. 'If I had used only petrol, I would have spent over $440.' He is happy his Toyota Picnic is able to accommodate the gas tank beneath the floor of the boot - which means the car still has decent boot space left. A big incentive for conversion is the green tax break. New cars which can run on CNG are accorded a rebate equivalent to 40 percentage points of their additional registration fee. In the case of a car like the Porsche Cayman - which businessman W.K. Chin, 38, is converting - it could work out to a saving of around $30,000 on the purchase price. It was curiosity which led him to choose gas. 'I wanted to try something new,' he said. He found out about CNG conversions just as he was about to buy his Porsche. This particular conversion - undertaken by Scantruck - is taking a little longer than usual because the authorities wanted to make sure the gas tank had a capacity of at least 50 litres - to ensure that owners are serious about their 'green' intentions. To comply, Mr Chin's Porsche had to be installed with two carbon-fibre gas tanks, as a single large steel tank cannot be fitted without a huge weight penalty. Mr Gilbert von der Aue, sales manager at Melchers, said he expects demand for conversion to go up when gas-refuelling facilities at Singapore Petroleum Company's Jalan Buroh station opens in the new year and Smart Energy's station in Mandai opens in February. Currently, there is only one CNG kiosk: on Jurong Island. 'With current petrol prices, we expect demand for conversion to be high,' he said. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanter 3rd Gear December 26, 2007 Share December 26, 2007 That porsche guy converted and saved tax money? I didnt know CNG was an option for new cars. So can do for any new registrations? Good for PI cars cos their warranty sucks anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo 1st Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 y bother. if gament serious abt this, they sud force public transport to convert long ago to benefit investers and passengers as this will lower cost and save the environment. nah... they're more interested to make every1 contribute to nation-building$. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanium 4th Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 CNG for new car? then the warranty how??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteride Neutral Newbie December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 can go for CNG when purchasing passenger cars ? o.O http://app.lta.gov.sg/corp_new_content.asp?start=51 Q. Can existing conventional cars/buses be retrofitted to run on CNG fuel? Will the retrofitted CNG car be given any rebate? A. Retrofitting existing in-use vehicles to run on CNG will involve changes to the engines of the vehicles and strengthening of the vehicle chassis to take the additional weight of the gas tank. Any application to retrofit an existing vehicle will only be considered by LTA if the owner can demonstrate that the retrofitted vehicle would reduce emissions and would not compromise vehicle safety. The green vehicle rebates, however, are only meant for purpose-built CNG vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sstarmax Neutral Newbie December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 The gas conversion sounds good .... anyone knows how big is the gas cylinder and the weight? Was told will loose some power after conversion.... How abt safety if kenna rear whack? They need to have more places to pump this gas as only limit to the west area.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ody_2004 Turbocharged December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 Only CNG kiosk on Jurong island?!? If i not wrong jurong island security is tight? We can anyhow go in pump CNG meh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo 1st Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 do a check on post by unker Genie47 pls... thank u. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo 1st Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 early next year, one more at Mandai Link, near to yew tee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route88 2nd Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 Good sign tat CNG is a popular alternative than crude oil fuel. Coming soon can see lots of sphere holders in JI to store CNG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route88 2nd Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 Oil revenue mah....eyes got $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route88 2nd Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 The gas conversion sounds good .... anyone knows how big is the gas cylinder and the weight? Was told will loose some power after conversion.... How abt safety if kenna rear whack? They need to have more places to pump this gas as only limit to the west area.... The cylinder is BIG .... no issue with the cylinder,its as safe as your fuel tank. Just dont let it leak somewhere along the system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcopa 1st Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 If our talented n underpaid government are serious abt this issue, they shld expang the infrastructure for this cng car. Onli 1 pump kiosk in JURONG ISLAND!!!! 2 more coming out in near future........ well done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus 3rd Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 can go for CNG when purchasing passenger cars ? o.O http://app.lta.gov.sg/corp_new_content.asp?start=51 Q. Can existing conventional cars/buses be retrofitted to run on CNG fuel? Will the retrofitted CNG car be given any rebate? A. Retrofitting existing in-use vehicles to run on CNG will involve changes to the engines of the vehicles and strengthening of the vehicle chassis to take the additional weight of the gas tank. Any application to retrofit an existing vehicle will only be considered by LTA if the owner can demonstrate that the retrofitted vehicle would reduce emissions and would not compromise vehicle safety. The green vehicle rebates, however, are only meant for purpose-built CNG vehicles. So does anyone know where to buy CNG/petrol vehicle? Is it available at, perhaps PI? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutty 4th Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 (edited) We use our ass to think... we also know why CNG development is soooo slow here. If the gahment really wanna promote green environment, we should be having refuelling stations spread out around the island. Edited December 27, 2007 by Nutty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 (edited) I saw quite a number of CNG Merc passenger cars. But petrol companies in sg dun seem very keen to promote CNG. SG has lots of sunshine too but we hardly use solar power for domestic purposes. I think our govt is afraid that we'll put fuel companies off and their investments would run to else where in the region. Edited December 27, 2007 by Watwheels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcopa 1st Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 our ministers dun use their ass to think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutty 4th Gear December 27, 2007 Share December 27, 2007 Maybe no ass in the first place? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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