What is the definition and standard of spaciosuness in sedan?

[Kelpie]

1. Based on local context, Chervolet Epica is classified as Big Size Sedan akin to BMW 5 Series, Audi A6s and Mercz E-Class. However, its wheel base size is similar to Civic at 2700. However, Civic is grouped under Medium Size Sedan. Why?

 

2. Most of the Conti cars are not spacious at the rear cabin. They often talk about spacious but neglect and inconvenient the poor center passengers with high center trunk/column. How to place the foot is one headache. So these cars are not rear passenger friendly. At best can only say they are spacious 4 seaters car.

 

3. So, who makes the most effective 5 seaters? the obvious answer is Honda Civic but is there really no other alternatives?

 

Regards,

[Latio79]

Hi, you should try a Latio/Sylphy. Latio considered as small car.

The spaciousness includes the rear passengers and even the boot area.

How did I know? My Bro is driving a Civic and its obvious wat car I'm driving.

[Kelpie]

Hi, you should try a Latio/Sylphy. Latio considered as small car.

The spaciousness includes the rear passengers and even the boot area.

How did I know? My Bro is driving a Civic and its obvious wat car I'm driving.

 

Nissan is a faithful follower of building "tall" car and that is how they manage to give you the perceived spaciousness, I suppose. IMHO, spaciousness need not sacrify the CG of the car. By the way, does it also come with center trunk?

 

Regards,

[Picanto]

forget about those local car reviews telling you the car got lots of room etc. those guys are a biased lot. you yourself is the best judge of whether the car is right for you.

[Dipstick]

Agree with you on that. Most, if not all, local motoring journalists are biased and would refrain from making negative comments on the vehicles they are reporting on unlike european/american motoring journalists. Can't blame them as they depend on the ADs for the supply of new vehicles.....

[Picanto]

and that's why i will never buy the local motoring mags. at $5+ a magazine, i rather save up the $$ for other things.

[Octopus]

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2. Most of the Conti cars are not spacious at the rear cabin. They often talk about spacious but neglect and inconvenient the poor center passengers with high center trunk/column. How to place the foot is one headache. So these cars are not rear passenger friendly. At best can only say they are spacious 4 seaters car.

 

It would be good if there is a standard to measure cabin space, so that consumer can have an accurate comparison. Since boot space is measured in how many litres, why not cabin space also have similiar measurement?

 

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3. So, who makes the most effective 5 seaters? the obvious answer is Honda Civic but is there really no other alternatives?

 

Why you think Civic is the most effective 5 seater? You mean cabin space the best?

[Sony]

hhhaaa.. cxxxc talk again..

 

how you perceive the back is how the front seat is adjusted.

 

Some cars which is considered spacious to others might become cramp if I were to adjust the seat myself..

[Nhrisuzu]

let's have an example..

 

a 1.5m lady go into a picanto, she find it alright.. u let her get into a Sunny, she goes WOW!!..

 

it depends on the size of the passengers/driver in my opinion..

[Kelpie]

hhhaaa.. civic talk again..

 

how you perceive the back is how the front seat is adjusted.

 

Some cars which is considered spacious to others might become cramp if I were to adjust the seat myself..

 

Yap, you are probably right but how do you adjust the space of the center seat behind? It is fixed and it will be crampy with a high center trunk. There is no way that you can adjust right?

 

Regards,

[Kelpie]

Why you think Civic is the most effective 5 seater? You mean cabin space the best?

 

Lets put it this way, only a real flat floor at the center of a Sedan car allows the center passenger to rest her foot/feet properly. Cars with high center trunk don't have such friendly design.

 

Regards,

[Sony]

so what is your intention? yes, honda does it well on the center trunk to their cars, not just civic.. but that's the way of building their transmission tunnel.

 

others chose to have a hump so that when the ladies sit in the middle, her leg can open wide..

 

it's just a choice when you buy car.

 

you want a flat floor, you can go honda, you want something else, you look elsewhere

 

frankly, after this post, I also dunno what you are asking about.. very the confused

[Kelpie]

so what is your intention? yes, honda does it well on the center trunk to their cars, not just civic.. but that's the way of building their transmission tunnel.

 

others chose to have a hump so that when the ladies sit in the middle, her leg can open wide..

 

it's just a choice when you buy car.

 

you want a flat floor, you can go honda, you want something else, you look elsewhere

 

frankly, after this post, I also dunno what you are asking about.. very the confused

 

It is actually pretty simple. To me, all future cars design should have rear flat floor. No high center trunking to inconvenient the center passenger. IMHO, those cars that claimed spaciousness for their rear cabin, do not take high center trunk into consideration. So to me, they can only claim spaciousness for 2 passengers behind not 3.

 

Regards,

[Sony]

some cars are meant to sit 4.... they don't bother about the 5th person

 

and cars like Lexus LS600 or Merc CLS sit how many?

 

 

 

anyway, it's a buyer's choice.. but you can wish upon a star as well

[Keithpapa]

forget about those local car reviews telling you the car got lots of room etc. those guys are a biased lot. you yourself is the best judge of whether the car is right for you.

[Bearbear1494]

Sorry, but I think it's worth noting that to create a totally flat floorpan, would mean raising the overall height of the vehicle in order to accomodate the exhaust piping. Else the pipes would be scraping the road each time you go over a bump. That also translates to a slightly higher CG. I guess a small hump is still acceptable since it's supposed to allow a pipe of at most 2.5 - 3 inches diameter to pass through. But if it's a FWD car with a huge center hump, then something is wrong.

[Sincereman74]

Well there are still other cars which are spacious if rear flat floor, in particular, is what you are looking for.

 

For Cat A, I would choose toyota Vios/Belta or even Axio (if budget allows. I think they have about the same legroom as Civic. I don't think Civic is very spacious. Totyota Allion is even more spacious. Regards.

[EventH]

Without a transmission tunnel, how dow you propose they mount the drive shaft (RWD and AWD) and the exhaust. In other parts of the world, many of the models on our roads come with 4WD option.

 

For me, a sedan should ideally seat 4+1(kid on isofix kiddie chair), excuse not to ferry so many pple.

 

... any more than that, it is time to get a proper MPV. When the kid complain MPV last row is for dwarfs, time to tell them to get their own car.