Weichien Clutched November 19, 2007 Share November 19, 2007 yes, even if that is so. i do have a habit of upshifing and slam onto the oil pedel. the feeling is much better. this car is more of a class and brand. long distance WRX might not lose, but the st will be more stable. which is very important for high speed cos of it's safety. sat in a friend's lancer. 125km/h the car start to virate already. and loud roar. feel unsafe. in a conti car or korean avante i must say. 125km/h feel like 100. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged November 19, 2007 Share November 19, 2007 Good on you for committing. That flat torque curve really lends itself well to tractability for daily driving. Torque makes a car feel fast because of that pressing-to-the-seat, neck-snapping-back feeling. If I see you on the road I'd be sure to say hi. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conned Clutched November 19, 2007 Share November 19, 2007 hmmm...shouldn't it be mod the driver first? or your right foot? ha ha. Enjoy e drive bro , getz to know your car better. Cheers Thanks bro. I did ask another ST owner what mod to improve FC - he gave me classic answer. Mod wallet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear November 19, 2007 Share November 19, 2007 you are right, conti do have a more stable ride in the high speed run. I have owned 2 Alfa Romeo in the early to late 90's and the Focus Mk1 in '03, all are stock setup and handle very well at 180km/h+- (for Focus), at 210km/h+- (for Alfa Romeo). I also owned a ES8 Civic in '01, before the Focus, stock suspension setup sucks and it bounce like mad above 140km/h. Even after I install Eibach Pro-Kit + Koni yellow, the steering feedback, actually there isn't much feedback at around 180km/h. I feel more tired, mentally, then when I was driving the Alfa's and Focus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magfocus 5th Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 Thanks bro. I did ask another ST owner what mod to improve FC - he gave me classic answer. Mod wallet! sorry to dig up an old thread, but hows your FC now? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankma Neutral Newbie May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 My take is that this thread has been originally started by a XYZ company employee wanting to sell a ABC car but times had been bad since a DEF owner was walloped left and right and all the commotion scared all the potential Tom, Dick and Harry. In any case, this car can't even overtake a GTI or R26. Don't waste your time bro ... following up this useless thread 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magfocus 5th Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 ..and you're so sure about that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othello Supersonic May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 wonder how you reach this conclusion. I know the TS and he defintely aint working for any XYZ company If the buyer wanted to overtake a GTI, wld have bought a Rex liao lor, cheaper somemore !! Is that all it is to driving for you ? ABout overtaking and such ? nothing to do go test drive the ST and see for yourself lor .... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magfocus 5th Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 Thats what i was wondering..btw tested the new WRX..i don't think the ST is any slower.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe 3rd Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 i tested the ST before too. from what u described, i can understand why u got it as its fast and practical. ppl say the GTI is faster. but i think the 0-100 timings are nearly identical. 6.8s for ST and 6.9s for GTI DSG. But i think what may give the ST the edge in a drag race is the manual shifting. flooring throttle and inducing wheelspin. i doubt anyone would wana try that with the DSG. Yes, the GTI pricing is steep. i didn't calculate but i wonder all that FC and road tax will make the ST more costly than the GTI. perhaps when u factor that in over 10 years, pricing will be quite similar. maintenance wise, ST easier to maintain cos its manual. DSG will fork out more to replace parts over the years. before i forget, i thought GTI is advertised as 109k? and if ST is 100k, there isnt much difference. back to ST, there was abit of torque steer when i tested it, typical of FWD. massive torque indeed. i do prefer the handling of a RWD though and the rx8 comes to mind. many think the rx8 is a drinker. its not that bad for the 6 speed manual, at about 9-10km/l. a friend of mine has it and that's the figure he's getting pumping 95ron. it's also quite practical but less than the ST. But rx8 is different altogether, needing to rev all the way to feel the power. but it should feel better balanced than the ST & i think its more costly anyway. WRX? think it will beat ST on standstill but on rolling start, the ST may have a chance due to WRX turbo lag. i suppose the ST has less lag. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magfocus 5th Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 (edited) The ST is actually less than 95k now, not 100k. and the GTi @109k is w/o sunroof, xenon, leather & electric seats Exclusively in Tornado Red only. Edited May 13, 2008 by Magfocus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King 1st Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 109k for gti i may fall for it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try_conti 2nd Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 so fast eyeing the GTi already ? sick of your tank liao .....? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magfocus 5th Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 Not satisfied with your Octy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc 3rd Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 (edited) I enquired in the Focus ST UK forum last year, comparing it with WRX. And all the owners were unanimous in agreement that the WRX is definitely faster any way you want to look at it. BUT they still bought and love the ST for other reasons. Edited May 13, 2008 by Falc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King 1st Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 100bhp max out, so may need something else but no $$$ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King 1st Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 i talk big only in the end, jsut drive my octy...ai ya forget to ask about B6 stock pricing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magfocus 5th Gear May 13, 2008 Share May 13, 2008 Greedy for power now eh.. vRS for you? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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