Suggestion to Improve Road Conditions

[Lawman123]

It's really a pain to drive to work in the morning nowadays. Driving is so different from few years back. While there is ERP, COE, all these measures have yet to prove their effectiveness. A true solution takes time and pain to implement, but at least it must be one that works.

 

Therefore i am asking for good ideas/suggestions to improve the situation (only constructive suggestions please). Let me start with a few :

 

1) Setting up electronic notice boards to inform traffic condition before every entrance of expressway so that drivers can avoid jams.

 

2) Setting up a dedicated radio station to continuously broadcast traffic conditions

 

3) Setting up a SMS notification system for all drivers

 

4) Have more exits from expressway so that traffic can be diverted should there be a traffic jam

 

5) Privatise public transport so that there will be competition and hence improvement in the public transport

 

6) Build more expressways and flyovers (you see a lot of these in cities like Shanghai and Seoul etc)

 

7) Encourage students to take school buses instead of parents sending them to school

Edited October 30, 2007 by Lawman123

[Perrier]

Let me comment on yours first.

 

1) Setting up electronic notice boards to inform traffic condition before every entrance of expressway so that drivers can avoid jams.

 

No matter how many notice board you put, ppl who needs to use CTE will still use CTE. Why spend electricity and $$ to inform the obvious.

 

2) Setting up a dedicated radio station to continuously broadcast traffic conditions

 

Why replicate the job when the radio station are already doing it at every station every morning?

 

3) Setting up a SMS notification system for all drivers

 

Isn't it against the law to use the handphone during driving. Can your mobile phone take all the SMS every day?

 

4) Have more exits from expressway so that traffic can be diverted should there be a traffic jam

 

The problem now is we have too many exit and enterance to the expressway that is causing the bottleneck. CTE was smooth from Yishun till AMK, another example is the TPE at Punggol.

 

5) Privatise public transport so that there will be competition and hence improvement in the public transport

 

How many more buses to jam up the traffic? A good example would be the big increase in Taxi operators, add woes to the already jammed traffic.

 

6) Build more expressways and flyovers (you see a lot of these in cities like Shanghai and Seoul etc)

 

One taxi driver was talking to me about this when he ferry me back from Airport. He said more roads means more justification to have more cars. Soon new roads will be jammed too, how many more roads can our government build or widen till we become like Beijing with the cloud of dust. Powerful taxi diver right?

 

7) Encourage students to take school buses instead

 

You are outta touch with mother Earth from Mars. Students are taking the public transport like B.M.W already mah. I am sure you dun mean the tertiary students like NP, SP, NUS, NTU taking school bus right? Anyway, we are talking about easing the traffic condition on the expressway right? Dun think anyone would be too bother about about the morning time drop off at the neighbourhood schools.

[Elriond]

i'm sorry to say this but in my honest opinion, the only way to really improve road conditions is when COEs are back at the 100K range...

 

and i'm pretty sure i'll get flamed for this...

[Lawman123]

1) Of cos for CTE, it is understood that there will be jam everyday. I meant more for cases of accidents, so that drivers can avoid the expressway knowing that there will be a jam.

 

2) The radio stations now are not dedicated for traffic conditions. The news often come too late.

 

3) The sms notification is meant to inform drivers before they start driving, not during driving. Even if they are driving, their spouse (or passengers in car) can receive the sms on their behalf.

 

5) If 1 bus can carry 50 passengers, it is better than 50 cars carrying 50 people right?

 

7) I meant more for the younger students. One good example is Bt Timah road, you can see a lot of parents ferrying their children to school, causing unnecessary jams. If you realise, ERPs are no longer restricted to expressways, it is everywhere now. On one hand, ERP is forcing people not to use the expressway. On the other hand, if we go by other road, there are new ERPs erected.

 

Again, i would like to re-iterate this thread is created for constructive suggestions, it is not meant for lamenting or complaining. Thanks.

Edited October 30, 2007 by Lawman123

[Perrier]

My contribution.

 

1/ Build expressway that has lesser entrance point and exit on the outer ring of Singapore. Make sure smaller roads are better utilized as well. Dun happy happy go up expressway.

 

2/ Setup express lanes on the expressway itself. Car cannot enter or exit these lanes by the marking during the peak hours. Install video camera to fine those offenders, make $$.

 

For example:

 

CTE: From AMK towards City, 2 outermost lanes becomes express lane from AMK ITE onwards till after Blastier exit.

 

TPE: From Jalan Kayu exit onwards till lorong Halus exit.

 

3/ Implement bus fare kinda ERP charges. If you use the expressway for short distance, you pay alot more than those who using a longer distance, this is to deter drivers from using expressway as a shortcut.

[Enzomatrix]

1) Of cos for CTE, it is understood that there will be jam everyday. I meant more for cases of accidents, so that drivers can avoid the expressway knowing that there will be a jam.

 

2) The radio stations now are not dedicated for traffic conditions. The news often come too late.

 

3) The sms notification is meant to inform drivers before they start driving, not during driving. Even if they are driving, their spouse (or passengers in car) can receive the sms on their behalf.

 

What if they drive alone? cant be everytime got ppl sitting beside ma lolx

 

5) If 1 bus can carry 50 passengers, it is better than 50 cars carrying 50 people right?

Of course theory wise, public transport is good. This also give a good reason for public transport to increase fares ^^ Our so called world class transport love to send small buses during peak hours, drivers drove like initial D jamming brake last min making the already cramped ppl in the bus flying. Frequency of bus is so long that driving might take u 15 mins, but it took 1 hr to reach on bus. Some drivers only meet time limits to reach the interchange, hence they might drive fast in the earlier stops and when approaching the interchange realising they r too early, they slow down to a point that cycling might be faster. (or via versa).

 

7) I meant more for the younger students. One good example is Bt Timah road, you can see a lot of parents ferrying their children to school, causing unnecessary jams. If you realise, ERPs are no longer restricted to expressways, it is everywhere now. On one hand, ERP is forcing people not to use the expressway. On the other hand, if we go by other road, there are new ERPs erected.

 

 

 

 

No offences :)

[Perrier]

You are absolutely right. I just a smaller step is to reinstate the mandatory 30% downpayment for new cars. It will be a lifeline for 2nd car dealers.

[Perrier]

Ok. Do forgive me for being blunt.

 

Did you vote here?

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/forum/Others_C20...truth_P2105852/

[Akula]

A simple but VERY VERY PAINFUL way is to ban Vehicles with last number that correspond with the day/dates! eg, car number 1234, this vehicle can't be on the road on the 4th, 14th, 24th of the month!( Similar to what Beijing did last month for trial though theirs was even MORE RADICAL, even and odd numbers, I think)

IN this way everyday will reduce traffic by 10%.Vehicle numbers ending in 1 ban on the 1st, 11th and 21st. Months with 31st no restriction! Buses are exempted. Of course like this road tax and such must also reduce by 10%. U guys think is this idea feasible? Know that those with one car will not like it.

[Lawman123]

hi,

 

no lah, the reason why i asked for constructive suggestions is so that i can compile all the good pts and write a letter to suggest to the authorities. Whether or not they listen is their choice, at least we do our best to help. Hence, i would like to hear more creative yet practical suggestions. LTA certainly need more good suggestions rather than just depend on ERP and COE.

Edited October 30, 2007 by Lawman123

[Lawman123]

i absolutely agree with you that our public transport is far from world class. The buses are jam, the condition of the buses are lousy (imagine water leaking from the top as a result of the air-con), the timing are not consistent. The MRT is no better, always so packed. Maybe can suggest way to improve the public transport also.

[Lawman123]

care to elaborate on Pt 2? Don't quite understand the purpose of such express lanes.

[Elriond]

i disagree with you only on 1 point... the only thing tat's world class is our MRT... u can't fault the MRT with being jammed... have u tried london's tube? or paris' metro? or NY's subway? HK MTR? to me, both our bus n transport system is not world class but i can't find any faults regarding the MRT... i guess the only complaint is them (SMRT) raising prices but in terms of quality and SLA, i dun think there's any fault on their part... at least there's none i can think of...

[Perrier]

point 2 means that instead of building a new expressway, make 2 lanes specially for those who is traveling longer, car traveling long distance usually travel faster and it prevents jokers who loves to cut in and out of lanes. It also makes you plan your trip better.

 

I have seen this kinda lane in HK when I was there.

[Daniu85]

in this way isnt those cars with the number 1 for the last number the more unlucky 1s? because 31st is the extra day in the month with 1 as the last number... or for months with lesser days?

Edited October 30, 2007 by Daniu85

[Perrier]

I have taken the MTR and Metro. Ok to me.

[Lawman123]

oh i see .. thanks for explaining. Good suggestion

[Lawman123]

Come to think of it, you are right, most of the trains are packed. I have tried Shanghai and HK, they are jam packed as well. Perhaps some improvements can be to improve the frequency of train and expand the train network (ie, more stations)