Ignite rev - are they melting your spark plugs?

[Neotan]

Hi,

While servicing my car today, the mechanic claimed that he had seen a couple of instances of Ignite Rev melting the tips of spark plugs, causing engine stall. He even showed me one melted plug from a Wish . Just wondering what's the experience so far from folks that have installed the set up?

 

Now that IC is no longer around , if you have problems with them, where do you go to ?

 

Thanks,

 

neo tan

[Yeobh]

Click here for details on spark plug firing analysis

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/engine/plugs.html

Edited July 16, 2007 by Yeobh

[Genie47]

It happens with MSD boxes as well. The tips are usually blown off instead of melting. Try cooler plugs to prevent plugs from melting.

 

Anyway, I think it is hogwash as well. If the tips are hot enough to melt, wouldn't that mean predetonation? You not only suffer stalling, you suffer engine damage.

 

As usual, IgniteRev or whatever stuff you guys want to put into your engine bay, make sure you got your physics and automotive engineering ideas double checked and don't listen to what the sales brochure says.

[Chromas]

Bro, I have the Ignite Rev installed in my S15 Silvia for more than a year already. And I'm running on regular Denso iridium spark plugs that were the standard temperature specs for my car.

 

Basically, the ignite rev serves like a capacitor for the spark plugs, cancelling out noise in the SINE curve cycle of the sparking cycle, just like a capacitor works for circuit boards.

 

As a result of the noise reduction between each spark cycle, the ignitors function in a smooth SINE curve and delivers a cleaner, more distint spark.

 

This is in no means enhancing / increasing the spark voltage as the power going to each spark plug is still the same.

 

Now that Imperial Concepts is no longer open, the next place that I know that has TM.Works products is at Exquisite Marquees at 31 Loyang Drive. Look for Alex over there.

[Chromas]

That's exactly why I don't have certain things in my car such as:-

- voltage stabilizer

- sausage shape vacuum tanks

- magnets around my fuel line

- some pellet stuff in my fuel tank

[Neotan]

Thanks Chromas...I wondered where he went to ...

Edited July 16, 2007 by Neotan

[Genie47]

I've seen the spark produce by those MSD boxes. Like miniature lightning! Got to have cooler plugs or the plugs will heat up too much.

[Chromas]

No problems...

[Chromas]

What's an MSD box???

[Genes]

AKA volt stabs are mainly rubbish? Am only asking as I'm actually looking at getting a VS for my car, Civic FD.

[Chromas]

Well, it's mainly a capacitor that filters out noise during the draw taken by various intruments, eg. headlights, HU, etc. when they are suddenly switched on, or when the subwoofer amp suddenly draws a lot of current.

 

It doesn't reduce the amount of dimming that the headlights suffers but it cushions that dimming effect by providing a buffer during the drain.

 

Overall, it DOESN'T increase the power of the lamps, spark plugs, etc. etc. but merely cushions the current draw.

 

It's just like my Ignite Rev. It's not meant to increase my spark voltage, etc. but to cushion and smoothen it out.

 

But I'd say that things like the magnet around fuel line is completely bogus stuff.

[Genie47]

http://www.msdignition.com/

 

Technology since the 60s. Capacitance discharge ignition.

 

Lots of them selling in eBay. Most racers use it then when the competition is over, they sell it. The other brand competing with MSD is Mallory.

 

http://www.malloryracing.com/

 

My brother had the chance to use the MSD box. After a week, realized the plug tips were blown away. Yes, BLOWN away AKA explosion blown away. Vtim supplied him with very cold plugs to solve the problem.

 

I used the Mallory on the Starlet. Idling improved.

[Genie47]

The biggest VS in your car right now is the battery. It actually does the most smoothing out from the alternator.

[Genes]

So basically u'd be adding a VS to the main VS of the car? lotsa reports on smoothening out of gear changing in autos + some increase in low rpm power (prolly BS)

 

whats ur take on this?

[Genes]

not looking to increase anything.. just wondering if it really works..

 

and if it really does help increase the battery's life, maybe that would pay for itself over maybe 2-3 battery changes? estimation at work haha

[Chromas]

Hmmmm, increasing the battery life? That I'd doubt.

 

No electrical circuit places a capacitor to extend the battery life. It's used as a charge storage and spike diffuser when there's a severe system surge.

 

Electrical and electronic engineers, please help me clarify on this matter.

[Normal_aspirated]

Battery de-sulphator may extend battery life, not the capacitors.

[Chromas]

That's true. That stuff will remove the "corrosion" on the battery to help the current flow.