Loosecannon Neutral Newbie May 9, 2007 Share May 9, 2007 use the money and upgrade your driving skills first at the racing track . learn keep the car balance in the corner and handle your present ride with confidence at the limit , tire screech ... so what ... still can corner . by then you will know how you wanna ZING your ride . ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrosszero Turbocharged May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 As some people have said, there is supercharging and turbocharging, both are illegal but apparently some people can get around the issue at the annual inspections. You can trade in for the lightest set of wheels, buy the best tires you can afford, what this mainly buys you is corner speed. You'll give the engine less mass to spin with the lighter wheels. So no phatass 17 or 18 inch wheels OK? And then upgrade your suspension for some height and damping adjustable coilovers. You won't win traffic light drag races (an Opel Combo might even beat you to 60kph) but with the sticky tires and suspension mods you can zip around bends on throttle where other cars need to back off or even brake. I forget, you can change to a lightweight flywheel and pulley too. Anything to give the engine less mass to rotate. At the end of the day, there is no replacement for displacement. Just have fun with your car, not try to make it something it isn't. By trying to increase its performance way beyond its limits you sacrifice other things like daily driveability, fuel efficiency, even reliability. For me, I don't lose sight of the fact that this is my daily driver, not my track/race-prepared car. I would curse and swear if I had to deal with 5km/litre fuel consumption week in and week out, scream at the multiple-plate-500bhp-heavy-duty-clutch in Orchard Road rush hour traffic, wedge and unwedge myself from my full-race harness and bucket seat everytime I get in and out of the car. Just simply not day-to-day friendly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Clutched May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 Its not about over-running rexes/evos or any other high CC cars. Its about out running the same CC car beside u. We all chose a CC and try to be the prettiest or fastest of that CC. Since this bro chose Swift, so he wan to be a pretty yet powerful swift to go against the swift beside him. Dun expect to win rexes/evo. They r suppose to win, if they lose, they can throw thier rexes/evos in the sea. -Cheers- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermodynamics Neutral Newbie May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 Quote hi all, I am not big on performance mods. But would like to spend just a little money to improve on the performance of my ride, especially low end. Would a CAI be sufficient for an "entry level performance mod"? What do you guys recommend? I might spend more in future, but right now don't want to splurge unnecessarily... Thanks for the advice. Oh yah, btw, I drive a swift sport. Sign for advanced driving course. Mod the driver, not the car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Clutched May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 If u wanna outrun a rex or evo....then buy a car of the same cat. That is why u dun see a 1.6 car in the race of 2Ls..... Weird that u guys got this thinking if can't out run a rex than dun even mod..... Its a totally different kinda cat...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord 1st Gear May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 Hmmmz... I think in the end, the only winner is TP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Clutched May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 Of coz after mod...drive with cautious...license hard to get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodobird Neutral Newbie May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 i did not say must outrun rex or evo than mod it. it jon who say it. ss is a 1.6. so should find 1.6 & run, but not after those family cars, altis, latio, vios, ect. all these dont have hi-comp piston or close ratio gearbox. what i am trying to say is, mod the ss, but cant outrun a stock b16 than is wasting $. the only 1.6 which can outrun base rex is b16 when nicely done up no need TC. if do vtec turbo, b16 eat evo also no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonjees 1st Gear May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 (edited) Quote Its not about over-running rexes/evos or any other high CC cars. Its about out running the same CC car beside u. We all chose a CC and try to be the prettiest or fastest of that CC. Since this bro chose Swift, so he wan to be a pretty yet powerful swift to go against the swift beside him. Dun expect to win rexes/evo. They r suppose to win, if they lose, they can throw thier rexes/evos in the sea. -Cheers- Mod to be the fastest in that class? erm is there a point to it? mod already to challenge same class and model? Mod already to get satisfaction that it 'might' be the fastest swift in SG? Isnt that kinda expensive for a 3 mins ego trip against the other stock swift? In SG its not how fast your car is, its how nice looking the exterior is. I dont think many people recognise what mods you do to the engine, more so since its in engine bay and cant be seen. Oh and if you want mod a car, 1st look at its potential, thats the problem with modders in SG. They just mod any car they buy, even when there is no potential in their engine and it ends up as a waste of money. A good example is what dodobird brought up ss 1.6 engine vs the b16, both throw in $5k of engine mods, end up the b16 will still eat the ss 1.6 and spit out the tissue bits, thats potential of engine. Edited May 10, 2007 by Jonjees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbonetics 2nd Gear May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 Oh and if you want mod a car, 1st look at its potential, thats the problem with modders in SG. They just mod any car they buy, even when there is no potential in their engine and it ends up as a waste of money. [/color] i totally agree on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Neutral Newbie May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 in it's class? if i'm not wrong, CooperS is also 1.6, colt turbo is 1.5L both are stock config. how much do you want to mod your SS to even match a stock 1.5/1.6 car? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodobird Neutral Newbie May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 stock manual cooper S & colt version R are even faster than stock b16. to mod ss to match all these cars, either buy the jwrc engine, or FI the car. else those basic mods are really wasting $. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Neutral Newbie May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 thats exactly the point! what for go and 'super' mod a small capacity car with little/no potential when ultimately one will be 'torn' by even a stock config of a similar capacity ? honestly, just $2k worth of mods isn't gonna make any car fly. everyone is so obsessed with the 0-100 , but never thought about the 100-0 timings. whatever fast car it is, it always crashes the same when it meets a tree/wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Neutral Newbie May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 Turbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbonetics 2nd Gear May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 (edited) a stock B16B might win the two car. otherwise at least the colt version R. Edited May 10, 2007 by Turbonetics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbonetics 2nd Gear May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 how do you define as 'potential'? engine potential or aftermarket parts potential? if you have the money,i think "potential" is not a problem. iam just afraid there are no aftermarket performance parts available for the car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Neutral Newbie May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 then it all started with just TS wanting to mod a ss 1.6. afaik, b16b is not available as a new car here. correct me if i'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohnemwan 1st Gear May 10, 2007 Share May 10, 2007 Unbelievable. Only 2 forummers had sensible replies - go for training. A fast driver in a modest car will always be faster than some chow beng rice boy with nice mods and stickers running down the side of his door. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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