This considered as road hogging?

[Yeshe]

We have been on alot of topics regarding road hogging. most of the time, we refer to road hogging as on expressway. however, do you 'consider' a driver as road hogger if he is occupying lane 1 on 2-3 lane roads even when the road is clear?

Edited March 24, 2007 by Yeshe

[Seaweed]

to me...the definition is anyone that occupy the extreme right and is going under the speed limit...

[Viotrex]

Same here. If the road is clear, the driver should jolly well use the normal lanes rather than as a reason to remain on Lane 1 (overtaking/express lane)

[Yaoxing]

Normal road is a little tricky. What if a slow moving vehicle needs to turn right at the next junction which is about 200 to 300 metres ahead, and this driver, from his experience, knows that drivers on lane 1 on that road are usually reluctant give way to him if he switches to lane 1 only later? If I knew cars are not going to give way to me later, I would be thick-skinned enough to occupy lane 1 even if I'm moving only at 40 km/h on a 60km/h road.

 

I've seen many heavy vehicles occupying the right lane for this reason.

[Nazaki]

On the express way, road hogging to me is the transport in front is slower than the car behind.

 

On normal roads, its hard to tell.

[Gl240]

How about Vans/Lorrys travelling on lane 2 of normal road, or lane nxt to overtaking lane on express way?

[Dgwee]

If this is the case, when you are intending to turn right, then you right turn signal should be on already to let the cars behind know.

[Focusdude]

I believe road-hogging is not linked to absolute speed of the vehicle in question. There must be an intention to over-take in order for a driver to take a faster lane regardless of whether he is driving a commercial vehicle or private car. If there is no intention and/or no ability to over-take another vehicle travelling on the slower lane, that particular driver is road-hogging.

 

The issues of road-hogging and exceeding the speed limit are two separate ones. A driver can be a road-hog even though he is exceeding the speed limit. For example, if there is a vehicle travelling at 120km/h on lane 2 of the expressway and another is consistently travelling at the same speed on lane 1, then the driver of the latter vehicle is considered a road-hog as he is either has no intention or ability to over-take the former. At the same time, he is also going at 30km/h above the legal speed limit of the expressway and as such is considered speeding.

 

In reality however, there are grey areas of consideration. For example, the driver of a commercial vehicle may have to keep right on minor roads (or in the case of the right-hand expressway exit on PIE towards Jurong) in order to be able to turn right or filter out of the expressway subsequently. The driver is expected to exercise discretion in determining an appropriate time to move to the right-most lane to prepare for the turn. As discretion is subjective, the assessor (a Traffic Police enforcement agent for example) will apply general factors such as density of overall traffic, the speed at which the commercial vehicle is travelling, the ability of the driver to move to the right-most lane at a later point in time, etc, in order to come to the conclusion that the driver in question is road hogging and therefore holding up traffic unnecessarily.

 

Ultimately, road-hogging is a reflection of poor awareness or road behaviour by a driver. By doing so, he is disrupting the smooth flow of traffic given that the rule of keeping left unless overtaking is meant to facilitate the distribution of different-speed vehicles across the lanes on minor and major roads as well as expressways. Although road-hogging seems to be harmless on the surface, it plays a significant role in lowering the effectiveness of the road networks due to the disruption it introduces. Given this effect, it should be elevated to one of the key traffic offences that the Traffic Police should look out for if the government is serious about increasing the effectiveness of the road networks in Singapore.

 

Additional repercussions of road-hogging are:

 

a. difficulty in lane-changing by drivers of cars behind the road-hoggers

b. mounting frustration, impatience and anger by such drivers

c. increased incidence of tail-gating due to the point b

d. greater number of accidents due to tail-gating and impatience

 

The list goes on and on and is simply meant to highlight the fact that road-hogging, as with many other non-observance of basic traffic rules, has an effect, whether direct or not, on the overall quality of driving in Singapore.

Edited March 24, 2007 by Focusdude

[Ben0704]

to me, road hogging is when car in lane 2 is travel at a faster speed than car in lane 1. then car in lane 1 is consider road hogging. he or she should change his lane to 2 instead.

[Kelpie]

to me, road hogging is when car in lane 2 is travel at a faster speed than car in lane 1. then car in lane 1 is consider road hogging. he or she should change his lane to 2 instead.

 

I think one is likely to be fined for tailgating and speeding than road hogging in SG. I mean how often did you hear or read that someone has been booked for road hogging? rare.

 

Regards,

[Ben0704]

ya, rarely is there people who get book for road hogging. i consider road hogging a dangerous action as well because it cause other to overtake from the left. should them.

[Yeshe]

 

recently, i have been seeing cars in lane 2 going at the same speed or slower than bus or trucks in lane 1

[Kelpie]

ya, rarely is there people who get book for road hogging. i consider road hogging a dangerous action as well because it cause other to overtake from the left. should them.

 

Even if someone is stopped by TP, they may agrue that he is already traveling at 90km/h, which is the speed limit. If he runs faster than 90Km/h, the TP can book him for speeding. So I think TP also shun the hoggers to avoid trouble of explaining.

 

Regards,

[Theoldjaffa]

We have been on alot of topics regarding road hogging. most of the time, we refer to road hogging as on expressway. however, do you 'consider' a driver as road hogger if he is occupying lane 1 on 2-3 lane roads even when the road is clear?

 

in this situation, to me, he is not hogging if the roads are clear and he is in lane 1.

 

a person is road-hogging when he doesn't give way to a faster vehicle behind him when conditions permit, irregardless of the speed he is at.

[Ben0704]

when TP is not around, speed limit is usually + 10 to 20 on lane 1.

[Russ]

All roads except single carriageway.

 

Keeping a safe distance from the car in front at the same speed as the car in front is NOT road hogging (unless you are talking huge gaps like say 5 seconds or more) if there are cars on your left going the same speed or slower. 2 seconds is NOT hogging.

[Seaweed]

have met with situation....before I can give way...the back guy already trying to overtake from the left...I filtered left trying to give way...then karna horn...we are on a road...not a a race track....logically speaking...hogging cause dangerous by making people overtaking from left...but in singapore...it is different....better to stay on and let racer overtake from left...

[Tomasky]

we have folks here at the wrong side of traffic law, and trying to create their own traffic rules, lol lol

 

but it's ok, their driving record will show their level of understand of local traffic rules,

 

a speedster blatantly breaching the legal speed limit on lane 1 is in no position to accuse the front slower vehicle for road hogging cos in the first place, he is already in the wrong side of law

 

"Speeding has never killed anyone, it's suddenly becoming stationary that kills" hahaha

 

well..in singapore, drug trafficking has never killed anyone, it's only when one is apprehended by the police who detected his drugs and prosecuted him to court, and the court found him guilty of drug trafficking and sentence him to death, after which he is brought to the gallows and hung, and up to the point when his spinal cord snaps, only then he will be killed

 

so in conclusion, drug trafficking in singapore will not kill you, has never killed anyone

 

likewise speeding has never kill anyone

 

i understand the frustrations of anti road hoggers as those "road hoggers" deprive them the opportunity to speed...so poor thing, and the police is fixing those speedsters and the traffic authority has turned a deaf ear on the complaints made by those anti road hoggers

 

so next time maybe i drive at 140km/h on lane 1 and every vehicle in front who is slower MUST be give way to me hahahaha

Edited March 25, 2007 by Tomasky