Golf GTI or WRX STI-S

[Ltcy]

Dude, your friend killed someone due to his stupidity and foolishness... 1.5 yrs later, he's out in the street thinking of changing to a more powerful car... to try to kill more innocent parties???

 

It's your mentality that makes me laugh....

[Caysman]

dude. Cows can jump.

[Zender]

Dude, I have been following this thread, but never make any comment on it... I prefer to keep all my opinion to myself because I do not want to flame anyone... But what you have done is really childish that I have to say it out....

 

You're a friend of Regan Lee and it's perfectly right for you to side him and help him. But those accident pictures you posted is absolutely unnecessary. Those accidents involved only the drivers themselves with no innocent parties involved. What if there is?But what Mr Regan Lee did was really f***-up (can't find a better word to voice out my anger). That is your opinion and I respect that

 

Your friend has costed the life of an innocent party... For what reason??? Just simply because he wanted to impress that pretty SE and test drove a car that he had absolutely no intention of buying??? How valid is this reason??? Is that your assumption or is that the fact? Are you him to know?

 

Can you tell me how remorse is he feeling now??? Not for me to say cos I'm not Him. Like I mention. Like you all I'm just assuming my conclusions. I feel the reason of him not driving his car to work and instead, park it at some hidden place, isn't because he's guilty and thus choose not to drive... I feel it's because he afraid that he will be challenged on the road especially he's the No. 1 public enemy now... If he really feels guilt, he should have sold his car long ago, or at the very least, not thinking of changing to a better performing car...

 

Rgds,

[Accordeuro]

hmm... point taken!

[Damienic]

I think the public reacted with fury not not so much becos of his accident 18 months ago. Its more becos of his intention to still want to get a new even higher performance car after what happened..people can say there is nothing wrong to want to buy a new car cos its such a long time after that accident...but there he was, saying his current HGT (which he just own for less than 2 yrs) is not fast enough. Just give pple the impression he is a recalcitrant who just cannot resist the thrills of driving at high speed even after such a high profile accident...secondly, there was this old thread where he was seen posting abt gathering fellow fiat owners for meet ups during mid Nov 2005 (just two weeks after that fateful crash). Would a normal person still have any mood for such events where a life is lost indirectly as a result of your actions (anyone normal will feel bad and in no mood even if it was really a pure accident)?

 

Some pple are saying it was just an assumption that he did not intend to buy MX-5. Hello, he collected his HGT in Aug 2005. How likely is he to be shoppping for a new car 2 months later in Oct 2005?

 

Actually frankly speaking, I did feel a little sorry for him seeing that his picture is out in the papers and everyone is out for his blood. Maybe some of us went too far. However, he cannot deny that he brought this upon himself.

[Zender]

Dude, your friend killed someone due to his stupidity and foolishness... This I agree it's the fact. 1.5 yrs later, he's out in the street thinking of changing to a more powerful car... This is a thought. to try to kill more innocent parties??? This is your personal opinion like every one else have the same. So can I have mine.

 

It's your mentality that makes me laugh.... Same here

I am not driving fast - I am just flying low... Wow. This statement sounds scary. Sound like you like to drive fast. But then again. It's just my assumption like everyone else.

[Mubarakrashid]

nah... see my subsequent reply to Gad...

 

It only have one use

 

u ah..

 

so it shall be the new international symbol of male toilet? hee..

[Zender]

Finally a decent opinion and i salute you for that.

[DarkLord]

do really hope that this incident could be settle with a satisfactory answer as soon as possible instead of dragging... anyway we are just by standers, it was the gal's family members that are much in grief right now since this incident brought up again after so long..

How you know the family is not in grief over the lack of action from the authorities?

[Gnoikj]

Ah..but the question is, DO you agree with Damienc's points?

[Ltcy]

Yes, I admit that I do drive fast at times... But I always make sure that it's late at night when the traffic is not heavy, I'm alone in the car and I am familiar with the road condition.

 

If there's a passenger, and I am not familiar with the area, I will always try to keep within the speed limit, or the most, 10km/hr above the limit...

 

One last thing, even when I'm testing driving a car, I would never speed with it because I know hell nothing abt the car condition...

[Caysman]

Damienic,

 

if one does not acknowledge FAULT to himself, based on FACTS believed by oneself, even if the accident he was involved in killed someone, the public should not persecute him just for desiring a new car.

 

Why should one NOT BUY a new car if he believes that he has done nothing wrong based on his own knowledge of the facts?

 

Why should the public be outraged when one does not feel guilty based on facts known to the accused but not known to the public?

 

Have we reached a stage when non-politicians have to give a flying fark to what the public thinks if it is well within one's rights to do something?

 

I just sold my FAST year old car in preparation for an MUCH FASTER car. I have a PERFECT record in Singapore, with full points never deducted, with full 50% NCD without even the help of NCD insurance. Never ticket for speeding in Singapore. All the accidents I have been involved in Singapore I have successfully cleared my name through the courts or through facts presented to the insurance companies, and all the claims I have made are 3rd party claims. One of the cleared cases involved a case where in a relatively high speed crash within the speed limit, I collided with a taxi with my front, yet I successfully proved that it was not my fault, contrary to the `assumption' that the guy who hit somebody usually loses the case.

 

YET I WANT A FASTER CAR. Am I a reckless driver? Not where the law is concerned. Can you assume that, just because I was involved in high speed crash, I am a recalcitrant driver?

 

BUT this is not about me. This is about the recognition that we must base our condemnations on FACT, and in the absence of which, CONDEMNATION is not fair.

[Acemundo]

How many of us did not actually once smoke a car or 2 due to anger and pride? Well. I did. We are all just young and playful at one point of time. That too applies to me.

Does that mean I'm a potential killer on the loose on the roads?

 

 

 

 

I think you missed a critical point. We were all young and playful once and may have toed the line from time to time.

 

But whenever we done wrong, most of us repent and learn from our mistakes.

 

Did he repent and learn not to repeat his mistakes?

 

That's the question in my mind when i read the first few postings of his on this thread again. This represents his thoughts just 1 month ago and it scares me to read that such a major accident then did not that much deter him to buying a sports car again 1.5 years later. Not unless you are telling me some imposter posted those 2 posts to make him look ugly.

 

Thinking of buying powerful sports cars (GTI and STI) and suggesting his HGT has too little power (hence "power hungry") suggests to me that he did not fully learn from his mistake nor is still sorry about the whole event. You or he may say it is more important to get on with life after a big mistake than to brood over something that is history. While I do agree we must get on with life, I do not agree that we get on with life by throwing away all the precious lessons we should have learnt. What's more, this precious lesson was taught at someone else's cost, all the more he should learn doubly hard.

[Gadgeter]

Enough said. The thread is going nowhere.

 

This thread is now locked. I will park this thread aside. Should any of your lawyer need a copy of this. Kindly contact the moderators.

[Accordeuro]

well, that one i donno la , but one thing is for sure , her family also dont want this incident to be dig up again ba rite...? haiz donno is it a fortune or misfortune ...fortune because this case have a second chance , misfortune because it will bring up the sorrow of their past...

[DarkLord]

What I want to illustrate is the concept of fault.

 

And to determine FAULT you have to have the FACTS.

 

And to determine the FACTS you have to get from various sources, all of which, can only be done fairly in a court of law where procedure and evidence is the rule of the day.

 

None of us have the FACTS now. What the media writes is NOT PURELY indisputable fact.

 

I live in this country and I don't want to believe that there are some among us who would form a mob posse, or persecute people online like this without a good moderating voice.

 

At the end of the day he may prove guilty, but only then, can we in good conscience blast him - based on the FACTS.

 

What the accusers are doing now, condemning without FACTS being known, is one of the highest form of sin in the civilized world - Justice by mob.

Hmmmz.. Ignoring those newbies who came in specially to have a go at Dracon, most of the forumers are questioning the lack of response from the authorities. Of course, most of us are aghast at Dracon's attitude and finesse in getting a new and powerful car to drive.