Gfoo Neutral Newbie April 12, 2007 Share April 12, 2007 (edited) LOL....but let's not jump to conclusions just yet. Jon's an honest guy and i haven't reviewed his higher-end ez-stab yet, so for now let's give em the benefit of doubt. If the mods did try to suppress, so be it - this is their forum anyways. In any case, my ez-stab review is now top 3 in google rankings, free for anyone to search and read - just goes to show the power of freedom of speech. Edited April 12, 2007 by Gfoo ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgeter 2nd Gear April 13, 2007 Share April 13, 2007 I think there is a misunderstanding. It all started when ZXC147 flood our forum with his spam and so happens that you have replied to him. And there after, Bitaren, Beanoyip, Zrun, Zika, Hiphiphoray replies to you. When I removed zxc147, I accientally selected all those replies to him. I hope this clear the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfoo Neutral Newbie April 13, 2007 Share April 13, 2007 orh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportster Neutral Newbie April 13, 2007 Share April 13, 2007 (edited) I had the z stab, red brick. N also the ez stab, the black one. I prefered the red one, much much better than the ez stab. THe ez stab lessens the vibrations, but i find that it shaves of the low end of m car, n have to rev higher for power to kick in. Have since change ez stab to another local made vs. n happy with the change What is the other local made vs that u had change to? Can recommend what's the brand and how much does it cost? What improvement do u see as compare to EZ-Stab? Reason I asked coz I may be installing EZ-Stab tomorrow, better to clear all doubts before I part my $. You mentioned that you had used the "black" EZ-Stab (old model), but have u tried the new "Red" EZ-Stab and comments on the new model? Edited April 13, 2007 by Sportster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiht Neutral Newbie April 13, 2007 Share April 13, 2007 Nv tried new red one. Check ur pm for the details Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zika Neutral Newbie April 13, 2007 Share April 13, 2007 Please let us know how the higher end EZ-Stab works out for you as the current one simply does not do anything for my ride.. Tried to send an email to Jon via the email on the website but got returned as believe its too full... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrun Neutral Newbie April 14, 2007 Share April 14, 2007 sure. better keep the spammers away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfoo Neutral Newbie April 14, 2007 Share April 14, 2007 The guys at Auto Ennovations have launched different flavours / variants of their original EZ-Stab product including an 'Extreme' version that claims: "Using military grade components, EZ-Extreme is a high specification revision of the EZ-Stab. It has been proven to increase performance by up to 5HP*. EZ-Extreme has the additional capability of upgrading the audio sound quality of any in-car-entertainment system (I.C.E)." Also coming in a see-thru red ABS plastic case, it looks exactly identical to the base EZ-Stab model except for a new black and red wire combination. RXReviews received a unit Friday night and we will be posting our preview of how it works out pretty soon. This time, we'll be testing it not only on an 8, but a stock WRX, and a souped up FI Corolla. So is the new EZ-Extreme ready for primetime? I've already got some results out from test runs Fri and Sat, but I'll reserve judgement till a bit later when I get some clarification on certain issues. BTW Auto Ennovations also released a 'Lite' version of the EZ-Stab for those with much shallower pockets. It comes with a beautiful see-thru grey casing, which in my opinion should have been used for the EZ-Extreme for some differentiation. Then again on closer inspection of the pix, it seems to be recolored photoshop of the red EZ-Stab instead of an actual product shot. One way power is maximized is thru optimizing air/fuel ratios/ignition timings and that can only be done from the ECU via a piggyback or a reflash. The second way is to ensure that power top the ignition coils is consistent, and noise free. The 8 - like most modern cars - have built in transistors in the ignition coil that prevent any spikes past the rated voltage of 12v and a 3.5v trigger voltage. Supply for the coils in OEM condition may not be entirely optimum as the same source is used to power a myriad of devices including ICE. What many electrical mods do is to provide line conditioning to maintain stability during power distribution. The third way is to lighten the load from the engine power-robbing alternator. Some 8s as well as many other cars invest in lightweight, underdriven pulleys to shift power back to the engine. Underdrivens have been proven to improve performance somewhat, but with a side effect of having less available power for ICE and other in-car stuff. So what exactly does the EX-Stab do? seems to me like it has some capacitance function; a line conditioner, and something that minimizes work done by the power-losing alternator. We shall see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circuit Clutched April 14, 2007 Share April 14, 2007 hmmm interested in the ex-extreme ... but hmm wonder how much... hope tat this elecrical gahget will not burnt pocket big time... or else no meaning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrun Neutral Newbie April 15, 2007 Share April 15, 2007 Will you be dyno'ing in the tests? At the meantime, you should also test it on any regular vehicle with a reasonably fresh battery. So, it will not the more sophisticated electronics on higher end cars that make the effect obsolete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfoo Neutral Newbie April 15, 2007 Share April 15, 2007 (edited) Yes, i will be doing a dyno run sometime down the road when i do a full review. in the preview article that's out this week, it'll be based on gtech & obdII/canbus charts over time first. I'll do it on a 1-2yr old vehicle, which is the best median age for cars. All non force-inducted cars, whether drive-by-wire or mechanical typically have the same improvement characteristics: AFR: Better mileage and power Ignition: A bit better mileage and power Underdrive/alternator: Power (except supercharging, which is norm belt-driven) An electrical modification does not improve smoother transmission shifts - Better ATF or MT oil does this; and a non multi-capacitance bank mod like EZ-Stab doesn't really improve serious ICE performance, as that's a function of more powerful batteries, or super-capacitance in lieu. A lot of times, claims to this effect is in the mind - lol what i call Post Purchase Positive Parity (P4) What i think EZ-Stab is trying to do is to clean out the voltage system, maintain consistent ignition voltage (how it does this only from battery terminals is a wonder) and lessen alternator load thereby freeing up engine power, and it should be doing this across closed and open loops. I've yet to see this but let me test the EZ-Extreme and find out. :) Edited April 15, 2007 by Gfoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitauren 1st Gear April 18, 2007 Share April 18, 2007 can any genius tell me wat version of ez stab should i use? im driving the honda civic SI. would the normal one work or the higher end one? would there be any diff my fren ish driving a skoda, can i smoke his ass if i install ez stab extreme or not pls advise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanoyip Turbocharged April 18, 2007 Share April 18, 2007 Just buy the eXtreme version if you want to smoke his car! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiht Neutral Newbie April 19, 2007 Share April 19, 2007 I dont think a vs can add 5 bhp lah... VS onli can correct some prob n restore the power, but it can possibly add anything. The only way to more power is, lessen weight to improve power to weight ratio, more cool air n fuel, n more compression. Add power n improve fc? gimmick lah i find, power comes with more fuel... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfoo Neutral Newbie April 19, 2007 Share April 19, 2007 With a good piggyback like emanage ultimate and a good tuner, you can tune for: - optimum stoich: more power, normally slightly worse fc (holy grail, hard to achieve) - lean: less power, worse fc, hotter temps - rich: more power, worse fc, cooler temps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabsta Neutral Newbie April 20, 2007 Share April 20, 2007 Hi Bros! I have personally tried this product on my new lancer. My car is auto. I can feel d diff in gear change. my gear now changes @ 2K rpm from d norm 2.5K. Which means i get better pick up. N i also gained 50km in FC. My car can run 550km on full tank n im a heavy footer. No modifications on my car except for i replaced d air filter to simota. Im not bragging abt this product but tried it myself. Must allow 2 weeks for car ecu to adapt to d change n u will experience what i experienced. I dont know about manual car but it really works on auto. N i did not remove my spare tyre! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berneo Neutral Newbie April 21, 2007 Share April 21, 2007 I had installed it 2 1/2 year back. The significant benefits is they my battery only change on the 4th 1/2 year due to some sulphate leaks. Car is more responsive when accelerator is step. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabsta Neutral Newbie April 21, 2007 Share April 21, 2007 What batt r u using? Im a rookie myself. Mayb 5 point grounding wires might help?? i had mine installed. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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