Is the extra octane we get worth $5-$10 more per tank?

[Genie47]

It is not that there are better additives out there. Big oil has the best additives like Techron but they give so little per litre and charge an arm and a leg for them.

 

In the end, I'd rather them not put any performance additives in the petrol.

 

Nothing to BS marketing techniques. Accusation? They got the best available from their research their marketing running down the lousier additives is just part of the marketing BS.

Edited January 15, 2007 by Genie47

[Kklee]

Yeah... Techron PowerClean is RRP$28 !

 

Hmm... which r the ones most bang for buck?!

 

Anyone got free sample additivies, please donate to me :P

[Genie47]

The ones that are proven are Techron and FP60. Bang for buck is FP60. Techron is really expensive.

 

Free sample? I'm about to finish mine up completely.

[Kklee]

You've just reminded me that I've got 1 free dose of FP60 and LC20 from Ryan. I'm not particular keen on LC20, if you want, you can have claim from him. I'm more interested in FP3000

[Yeshe]

the CNG conversion seems interesting. as i m looking at the possibility of installing it on my new ride, most like a 2.4 or 2.7 SUV, can anyone tell me if it is suitable and can the cylinders be installed under carriage in the case of SUV?

[Genie47]

Depends on how tall the SUV is. Check with them.

[Hattee]

So you are telling us Techron is the best additive. And saying Caltex petrol is not good enough because the company has not put in the correct ratio. How can Caltex smart enough to produce the best additive and stupid enough to put in the wrong ratio?

 

Interestingly, Techron concentrate is not expensive, Amazon.com priced 12oz for SGD10. And it added more as cleaner than FC or performance enhancer. Certainly Techron will be many times cheaper at Caltex factory. Not forgetting 32oz FP60 costs SGD33 from O2asis - and you have tried both and not just hear-say I guess.

 

Now, do you think more Techron means better petrol or anymore Techron will not make any better than Shell and Mobil petrol?

 

 

It is not that there are better additives out there. Big oil has the best additives like Techron but they give so little per litre and charge an arm and a leg for them.

 

In the end, I'd rather them not put any performance additives in the petrol.

 

Nothing to BS marketing techniques. Accusation? They got the best available from their research their marketing running down the lousier additives is just part of the marketing BS.

Edited January 16, 2007 by Hattee

[Genie47]

On the contrary, they are smart.

 

Like I said, it is all marketing. Look at the effects of a magical V in V-Power . If you want people to be enslaved to your product, you got to exhort claims but legally put them in but don't tell everyone how much you put in (proprietary) and charge an arm and an leg for it.

 

They are businessmen. This is not some drug firm like Norvartis selling Glivec. They can play with doses because what they put in can't kill your car but might not magically enhance performance either.

 

Remember, any corporation has to satisfy their shareholders first. Consumers? They paid for the petrol which is a commodity. Performance enhancing chemicals are just the icing since most people like sweets.

 

According to sources, the levels of Techron in stock Caltex might be rather feeble to make it better than other brands of petrol. If they add Techron up to the recommended cleaning levels, it will make the petrol so expensive it cannot compete with the rest. They have already admitted that the Techron Concentrate is 10X more than the dose found in their petrol. Maybe good to prevent deposits but not really good enough to clean up.

 

FP needs 0.5-1oz/5 US GAL. Techron Concentrate requires you to use up all the 12oz for 12 US GAL but this is not the only instruction where both of them differ. So Techron concentrate is more expensive.

 

Techron Concentrate is basically a cleaner. One shot, one kill. Maybe use every 10k but you can negate that by use Chevron Techron dosed petrol after that. Ah! The wonders of marketing. Even their Techron FAQ expouses the value of the maintenance doses already found in Caltex petrol. FP on the other hand maintains the fuel delivery system because you add the dose at every fillup. Think of it as DIY Techron that does what Techron concentrate does but over a long period of time. You can use shock initial doses like how you pump a kid with paracetamol before going to maintenance dose.

[Chevycavy]

The ones that are proven are Techron and FP60. Bang for buck is FP60. Techron is really expensive.

 

I've tried FP60. Didn't make any difference at all. As for Techron I've only tried whatever tiny amount they put in Caltex petrol here. Don't seem to make much difference too, except poorer FC.

 

Recently tried Redline SI-1. Added half bottle during cleaning phase and now a few ounces per full tank of Shell98 petrol. FC seems the same to me but engine is smoother now.

[Genie47]

YMMV. That is why I now go by the motto that either none or free.

Edited January 17, 2007 by Genie47

[Hattee]

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Edited January 17, 2007 by Hattee

[Hattee]

Techron is unlikely the best additive. For FC, Shell V-power is better. For power, Mobil Super bids Caltex 98. For cleaning, STP injector cleaner is equally effective if not better.

 

And you say Caltex used the wrong ratio due to the costly Techron. But Techron will be dirt cheap from factory if you can buy it at lower price than FP60 in open market.

 

Looks like wrong ratio is another make believe. Know of people regular on Ten35, F1 2020, F2-21 and of course FP60. Any nobody heard of people regularly add Techron to Caltex or other fuel to improve FC or for better power?

 

Probably, the only thing smart about Techron is it can sway some people to believe it's the best additive.

[Genie47]

Well, everything will beat everything because it is regulation to include anti-deposit control additives.

 

It is harder to find Techron Concentrate here. Regularly add Techron? You can just get it with Caltex petrol.

 

One thing is certain though. Good refined gasoline is more important than additives.