All about springs and shocks(dampers)

[Columbian78]

These are all taiwan coilovers. I always suspect some of them are linked but I believe BC is the more established taiwan OEM as I can see many overseas folks using their products and their sales are established overseas. I have seen youtube videos showing their production in factory and am sure they make their own and not outsourced.

 

Personally I will not use Gecko cos there is very little info and users and I am very turned off by their purple/green colours and name.

 

I am pretty sure V1 is the lowest grade in their product lineup. If you study their catalog, you can see V1 is available for most of the low end car models, followed by BR. There are some other niche models that are only made for nicher car models. Price wise also the same, but V1 is just slightly cheaper. Perhaps saying V1 for track and BR for street is not really correct. But BR definitely suitable for street.

 

I do not have an apple to apple comparison of BR vs V1 on the same car. Just bits and pieces of info and experience added up all over. I would strongly recommend to go for BR if it is available for your car. 

 

 

thanks! there's very limited choices for my car also, that's why i lowered using only RSR springs while retaining the stock dampers. Ride quality is still very comfortable, very close to stock, but it's too low. I've scraped my undercarriage countless times, and on occasions when i go over a bumpy road too fast, the damping is not firm enough and so i scrape the bumper.

 

therefore, i decided to raise my height and increase the damping.

 

i had D2 Coilovers before and the ride is hard, never tried BC before and overseas forum users mostly use BC V1 as it's more for street with the BR more for track. that's why i'm surprised when you say BR is for street and more comfy.

 

thanks for your input, i will check with FK.

 

there's another brand called GECKO Racing but the name turns me off lol.

 

[Theoldjaffa]

bros on coilovers, just to check on the suspension settings.

 

assuming a 16 click adjustability factor (0 for hardest, 16 for softest) 

 

do you set damping firmer at the back and softer for the front?

 

for RWD, what is the recommended setting? looking at a comfortable but not bouncy ride for normal street only only.

[MarkGontarz]

thanks for sharing this info with us.

a sticky for this thread.

[Carterz]

Would like to get your feedback on Bilstein shocks. Is it better to pair it with aftermarket springs like H&R or Eibach? I'm also open for other suggestions.

[giraffey99]

Would like to get your feedback on Bilstein shocks. Is it better to pair it with aftermarket springs like H&R or Eibach? I'm also open for other suggestions.

Bilstein has options that includes Eibach springs. e.g. Bilstein B12. They are designed and tested to work well together.

 

But this being said, there are also other springs that could be more stiffer or more comfortable depending on your requirement.

 

But whether there are available springs, depends on the availability for your car model.

[Theoldjaffa]

bros on coilovers, just to check on the suspension settings.

 

assuming a 16 click adjustability factor (0 for hardest, 16 for softest)

 

do you set damping firmer at the back and softer for the front?

 

for RWD, what is the recommended setting? looking at a comfortable but not bouncy ride for normal street only only.

Anyone can advise?

[inlinesix]

Anyone can advise?

For RWD, rear has to firmer to prevent diving when moving off

[Mkl22]

Anyone can advise?

Friend with an evo used back the stock springs with bilstein b6 bought from demon tweeks in the uk. Shipping was surprisingly cheap.

It felt much smoother than stock shocks. Less jittery over our pock marked roads.

[Vvnm]

Hi bros. I’m driving a vw polo 6r 1.2 turbo.

I’m looking to lower my ride for aesthetics and use it as a daily driver, no track day intended. Any suggestions on what I should do? E.g coilovers or shocks and spring combo.

 

Thanks in advance!

[WollenUgat]

Hello everyone ! anyone knows where i could find a Suspension and Super strut for Toyota celica GT4 st205 ??

[Kapitonov]

Hey, very interesting inf. Thx for it 

[inlinesix]

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[Kangadrool]

Later RadiatorX will come here to KFC you. 😂

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[boonhat_91]

11 hours ago, Toeknee_33 said:

When talking about ride comfort, there are 2 parameters: primary ride and secondary ride.

Primary ride refers to how a vehicle manages big amplitude road irregularities at higher speeds, like highway dips and crests. The vehicle suspension shouldn't bottom out in a dip or run out of travel on a crest. After taking a bump, the vehicle should settle down quickly and not bounce down the road, or have unnecessary lateral and longitudinal movements. A vehicle with good primary ride typically has stiffer springs and dampers to control the motion of the vehicle. Occupants should not feel tossed around. 

Secondary ride refers to how the vehicle deals with the smaller, higher frequency road surface imperfections, like badly repaired roads, speed restriction strips and potholes. A car with good secondary ride typically has softer springs and dampers to absorb the impact of the bumps. Occupants should not feel jolted.

Obviously these 2 parameters require 2 different opposing suspension set ups. A German car on the smooth autobahn needs a firm suspension to give comfort, while an Jap car deals mainly with broken city roads and needs a soft suspension to give comfort. 

So suspension tuning depends on the vehicle model's intended market segment, and the condition of the roads in that market. You can't really say BMW's MSport hard suspension is good, nor can you say a Citroen 2CV's rolly polly ride is bad. It's about what you want in your car, and also your personal preference.

Finding a good balance between comfort and control is an automotive art. And we haven't even started on how different suspension tuning affects vehicle handling characteristics in a corner. 😅

 

Good sharing by bro Toeknee_33 in other thread.

On this topic, anyone got recommendations for workshops with suspension tuning expertise?

Those who go aftermarket, how do you "test" your new suspension setup? e.g. drive a fixed route that has humps and bumps and many corners, track testing etc.