Why Pennzoil Platinum is cheap

[Genie47]

Mobil 1 (M1) uses PAO (polyalphaolefins) as the synthetic basestock.

 

Pennzoil Platinum (PP) uses EOP (ethylene alphaolefin polymer) as the synthetic basestock.

 

M1 is Exxon-Mobil. PP is same as Quaker State (QS) is from Royal-Dutch-Shell (RDS) group. They scaled up their plant to make more EOP for PP and QS.

 

RDS spokesman says EOP is synthesized from ethylene, propylene and butene using a single-site catalyst, and the reaction products from the process exhibit comparable physical and chemical properties to PAOs. Even more, the feed stocks and manufacturing costs are significantly lower for EOP than PAOs.

 

However, some issues exist with EOPs that must be resolved first, of which additive solubility and seal compatibility represent the highest priority. Finished costs are expected to be 20-30 percent lower than PAOs for the 4 and 8 cSt material, with higher viscosities being as much as one-third the cost of a PAO. Initial applications are targeted for high viscosity gear oils and some other industrial oils as well as some premium engine oil formulation.

 

PAO is made from 1-decene polymer.

 

By definition, PAO is Group IV. EOP is Group V which is the same as esters but cheaper!

 

Of course this doesn't mean the performance is the same as esters lah!

 

So if there is no sale and you see PP more expensive than M1, don't buy. If M1 is on sale and is cheaper buy. If both on sale but PP cheaper, buy PP.

Edited February 14, 2006 by Genie47

[Nutty]

Very cheem...

 

So what does this imply?

[Genie47]

See the end of the post. It should be the cheaper synthetic oil when you compare with M1 or any other oil that uses PAO as basestock (RP included).

[Glyuen]

it means any oil cheaper the M1 then can consider buying...if not get M1..am I right?

[Genie47]

Actually it is to comparing the cost, M1 should be more expensive than PP and if any place is selling PP more expensive than M1, confirm trying to rip you off.

[Kelpie]

The label said something like "manufactured for the european countries". Does it matter?

 

Regards,

[Genie47]

That will be the famed "European Formula". Only the 5W40 qualifies. MB229.3 rated. Good for European engines that require VW, MB and BMW-LL ratings. If the car is not European but turbocharged, nice for turbocharged car.

Edited February 19, 2006 by Genie47

[Conservative]

Bros,

 

just to share, Big Boyz Toyz at Expo someone now selling Pennzoil Platinum for $12 per quart, in case anyone keen...

Free entry , limited babes, but theres mud wrestling....

[Princey_anne]

Really, I must go and see.

[Rliewky]

worth going?

[Conservative]

Well,

actually theres also the JL warehouse sale and the Sitex PC show on at the same time, all just beside one another, so you actually getting 3 shows at one venue....

 

Car park crowded as usual, but if you dont mind walking extra 5 mins, they have lots of carparks in the newly opened halls too.

[Conservative]

For me its just 10 mins walk from my workplace, , so can pop by lunch time easily...

[Acaj]

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Actually it is to comparing the cost, M1 should be more expensive than PP and if any place is selling PP more expensive than M1, confirm trying to rip you off.

 

M1 5W-30 EP selling at S$13.50/qrt.

PP 5W-30 selling at S$16.00/qrt.

 

So should go for M1 5W-30 EP right.

[T3march]

There is a saying....

CHEAP THING NO GOOD, GOOD THING NO CHEAP kekekeke

[Garunguni]

Not ALL cheap thing no good, not ALL good thing no cheap. kekekeke

[Gobbler]

where selling M1 5W-30 EP selling at S$13.50/qrt?

[Acaj]

Sorry, is $14.50 @ Motor Extreme Trading

Edited December 4, 2006 by Acaj

[Gobbler]

oh... i tot u have cheaper lobang hee...