Shadow6447 Clutched June 22, 2014 Share June 22, 2014 w212 facelift is on par with the f10 5 series. the rest are sub standard how bout the w222? coming from f10 523i .. no regret moving on to the gs350 fsport .. your statement is too sweeping. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphard96 6th Gear June 23, 2014 Share June 23, 2014 coming from f10 523i .. no regret moving on to the gs350 fsport .. your statement is too sweeping. yes, yes. many drivers converted back from driving BMW/Mercs - to Toyota/Lexus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 23, 2014 Share June 23, 2014 yes, yes. many drivers converted back from driving BMW/Mercs - to Toyota/Lexus. BMW is for ppl who likes driving. These ppl who convert back likely to b looking @ d badge in the beginning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heman75 Supercharged June 24, 2014 Share June 24, 2014 But the ES has many options, very good maybe can consider camry special indent.. given the same price.. you can indent a super camry like the Hello kitten Bentley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic June 24, 2014 Share June 24, 2014 maybe can consider camry special indent.. given the same price.. you can indent a super camry like the Hello kitten Bentley If the "special" Camry,just $2-3k cheaper,must well get the Lexus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphard96 6th Gear June 25, 2014 Share June 25, 2014 BMW is for ppl who likes driving. These ppl who convert back likely to b looking @ d badge in the beginning Some driver enthusiast appreciate the smoothness and the powerful toyota or lexus V6 engine and transmission compared with the E class compressor or even the base model S class 7 G tronic..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 25, 2014 Share June 25, 2014 Some driver enthusiast appreciate the smoothness and the powerful toyota or lexus V6 engine and transmission compared with the E class compressor or even the base model S class 7 G tronic..... That's not a like for like comparision. For like for like comparison, it should be: IS 250 vs C200 vs 320 GS 350 vs E350 vs 535 LS 460 vs S500 vs 740 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heman75 Supercharged June 25, 2014 Share June 25, 2014 If the "special" Camry,just $2-3k cheaper,must well get the Lexus. what I mean special is maybe the camry got customise interior , maybe got bullet proof , maybe got massage seats.. ES looks damn ugly inside out.. That's not a like for like comparision. For like for like comparison, it should be: IS 250 vs C200 vs 320 GS 350 vs E350 vs 535 LS 460 vs S500 vs 740 then my Volvo s60 compare to who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 25, 2014 Share June 25, 2014 what I mean special is maybe the camry got customise interior , maybe got bullet proof , maybe got massage seats.. ES looks damn ugly inside out.. then my Volvo s60 compare to who? T4 or T5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heman75 Supercharged June 25, 2014 Share June 25, 2014 T4 or T5? T4 with polestar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 25, 2014 Share June 25, 2014 T4 with polestar IS250 vs 320 vs C200 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic June 25, 2014 Share June 25, 2014 T4 with polestar Volvo compare with VW... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heman75 Supercharged June 25, 2014 Share June 25, 2014 Volvo compare with VW...No way... Haha Volvo one level up.. Vw is scary.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphard96 6th Gear June 28, 2014 Share June 28, 2014 That's not a like for like comparision. For like for like comparison, it should be: IS 250 vs C200 vs 320 GS 350 vs E350 vs 535 LS 460 vs S500 vs 740 yes, ok. But even the S class cannot compare with "smaller" lexus, not as good to drive (in terms of power delivery/auto transmission smoothness) compared to lexus ES300, GS300, RX400h.....so sold off Nov 2012 S class W221 S300L and change back to lexus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btwl Clutched June 28, 2014 Share June 28, 2014 I, on the other hand, found the latest GS350 engine to be unrefined and noisy, I have switched to BMW 5 series. The BMW 528 drives and feel better. It's actually more quiet at both low and high speed. It was of course not as quiet as my previous LS460 but certainly better than GS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 28, 2014 Share June 28, 2014 yes, ok. But even the S class cannot compare with "smaller" lexus, not as good to drive (in terms of power delivery/auto transmission smoothness) compared to lexus ES300, GS300, RX400h.....so sold off Nov 2012 S class W221 S300L and change back to lexus. That's because u bought entry level S class. S300 is 2 tonne with 230hp, which translate as 8kg/hp. On the other hand, LS460 is 2 tonne with 380hp, which translate as 5kg/hp. It is the same for any car that is entry level model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphard96 6th Gear June 30, 2014 Share June 30, 2014 hehe, u r right, what to do. cant afford the S600L biturbo V12 cost price and the annual road tax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 30, 2014 Share June 30, 2014 (edited) hehe, u r right, what to do. cant afford the S600L biturbo V12 cost price and the annual road tax. No need lah. S450 or E300 would be more than enough. I am a big fan of Alphard/veilfire as long as i m not the driver. As the sitting position higher than car, it is easier to get in & out. Edited June 30, 2014 by Davidtch ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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