Kia Carnival vs. Hyundai Trajet

[Kelpie]

1. I wonder if I'm able to adjust my driving habit to suit the APV. Its world apart when comparing the two in term of pick-up and driving satisfaction. I wouldn't be able to do street racing if given the chance but I doubt someone would like to "pick fight" with a slow APV. I will get to my destination slower and be branded as Uncle or a family man. Overall, I may save as I will be less tempted to mod the car.

 

2. I paid some downpayment for my one year old Civic so I guess I should be able to breakeven i.e don't owe bank but lose downpayment.

 

Regards,

[Vit4wd]

OK, I just got to know that your Civic is only 1 yr old.

 

This means a huge 1st year depreciation of $15K to $20K, since you probably paid close to $90K 1 yr ago.

 

You can never compare Civic with APV.

 

Why the sudden need to switch to a bigger car when the Civic suited your needs just 1 yr ago?

 

Is the purpose of getting the APV specifically for driving up North? How many people in your family you ned to ferry up North? 4 to 5 can still comfortably sit in the Civic. Your rear flat floor & leg room is real spacious.

 

How many times are you going to travel up North annually.

 

You may seriously wish to consider renting a MPV when you drive up North. Can take taxi to JB and hire those Malaysian MPVs. Real cheap.

[Kelpie]

1. I paid about 76K and COE was close to 23K then. I guess if I trade-in now, I get to drive away an APV without coughing much cash. APV is about 63K now.

 

2. I bought a smaller car then as the wife wasn't confident with driving car. Since she is more confident after a year, I thought its time to switch to a MPV. I need to take 7-8 persons out sometimes during weekend. I dare not go into north with a new Civic but with APV, I guess the risk is lower.

 

Regards,

[Zafira18]

1. Thinking of getting a really cheap OPC MPV as a second car.

 

2. I think Korean MPVs have noisy engine. No much gadgets just pure space and easy to drive. Anyway, the cheap price make up for all these. FC, I heard is bad..sould I be looking at 6/7L?

 

3. Which is a better buy? in term of space, comfort and ease of maintenance?

 

Please advise me. Thank you.

 

Regards,

 

Bro, just some comments.

 

Trajet has an advantage vs canival for 3rd row seating arrangement. Trajet uses 2 + 1 meaning u can either fold or remove the one seater to increase the booth space and yet still can sit 7!

I am currently driving the FL trajet and i do agreed the slow start . But my family is really enjoy the long distance drive to KL with plenty of space and the suspension is quite firm also...basically no regrets and car getting 9-9.5km/ltr ..

[Seanboi]

yup i ever sat inside one. just that i dun like a huge car with high FC and low power(acceleration) - personal prefence no offence here.

One point to note bro, saw quite a number of Carnival that broke down be it in Msia or SG.

Do take note of that.

[Tploh]

My colleague complained about his Carnival and sweared never will he buy it again.

[Kelpie]

Bro, just some comments.

 

Trajet has an advantage vs canival for 3rd row seating arrangement. Trajet uses 2 + 1 meaning u can either fold or remove the one seater to increase the booth space and yet still can sit 7!

I am currently driving the FL trajet and i do agreed the slow start . But my family is really enjoy the long distance drive to KL with plenty of space and the suspension is quite firm also...basically no regrets and car getting 9-9.5km/ltr ..

 

1. 9-9.5 is consider good for a Trajet. Do you use ICE or other Mods in the car?

 

2. Have not tried Trajet yet, is the engine noise loud?

 

Regards,

[Kelpie]

Thanks for the information. Does Kia car generally breakdown frequently? According sec, 0-100 takes more than 15secs and FC is probably 7 or so in my opinion.

 

Regards,

[Kelpie]

I heard of someone who discarded his just as troubelsome Merc and switched to 2 cars, Carnival and a Caren. To him, he just needs point a to b car with big space. No point spending too much on luxury car that will breakdown too.

 

Regards,

[Zafira18]

Yes, got tons of ICE but for engine, just K&N filter and platinum plugs!! As for engine noise, it will get smoother once the mileage pass 15K.

[Civic03]

That can be true. But may not be statistically significant.

 

Cant be 100% no problem u know. Merc or BMW included.

 

What we should be looking at is the margin of tolerance for errors in a given population of produced cars.

[Redeel]

Yes, I have seen quite a few customers 'downgrading' to cheaper cars due to haywire electronics...

 

Not sure how's the driving feel of the APV, but with only 92bhp(?), how would you expect it to carry 8 adults and drive well? Think 0-100km/h was stated as something like... 17+ secs in a magazine?

 

eddie

[Kelpie]

Yes, I have seen quite a few customers 'downgrading' to cheaper cars due to haywire electronics...

 

Not sure how's the driving feel of the APV, but with only 92bhp(?), how would you expect it to carry 8 adults and drive well? Think 0-100km/h was stated as something like... 17+ secs in a magazine?

 

1. Yes, I tested with 6 adults and two kids. The 0-100 is 14, better than Carnival which stands at 15.5.

 

2. Surprisingly smooth with a 1.6L MPI engine. Like I've mentioned, not much pick up power like Carnival and take awhile to push beyond 80Km/h. So cheap, its 63K for Japanese MPV.

 

Regards,

[Seanboi]

Well, thats wad i have seen cuz tot of getting one in MY.

Maybe u wanna check out with those bros driving Carnival?

[Redeel]

Is it manufactured in Japan? Or Indonesia? Dun you find the location of the engine somewhat too similar to a van? It's a van being marketed like an MPV...

 

eddie

[Vit4wd]

The APV is similar to the Altis, Civic, Accord etc - Japanese car assembled in an Asian country. The APV is assembled in Indonesia, but its engine is pure Japanese - manufactured in Japan.

 

Just as the '97 Suzuki Swift was previously assembled in Hungary, and the current BMW 3-series being assembled in South Africa.

 

Yes, the Extol and APV is based on a van platform, similar to the Citroen Berlingo stationwagon, just as the Toyota Fortuner is built based on a truck platform.

 

The Nissan Serena MVP also had its engine under the front seats.

[Kelpie]

Is it manufactured in Japan? Or Indonesia? Dun you find the location of the engine somewhat too similar to a van? It's a van being marketed like an MPV...

eddie

 

1. That is the smart part of Japanese technology. APV is stylishly manufactured even though engine is mounted underneath of the driver's seat. Of course, Extol is very Van like but not so for APV.

 

2. The assembly is done in Indonesia. Anywhere, between Carens, Extol and APV, I will take APV anytime.

 

Regards,

[Vit4wd]

So what is holding you back? Get the APV then.

 

And request for freebies like Window tinting , reverse sensors, sports rims etc.

 

PM me if you need contacts at Champion Motors.