Gears clashing?: Need help

[Noname]

Hi guys,

 

I have this problem in the morning whereby it's very hard for me to engage 2nd gear. I just changed my clutch about 2 months back. After the car warms up, the problem seems to disappear or alleviated.

 

And at times I can here 'grek grek' sound while engaging 2nd gear which I assume to be the gears clashing. It's also very hard for me to downshift to 1st gear even though I'm travelling at super slow speed, say less than 10km/h. Practically have to be at a standstill before I can engage the first gear.

 

I'm driving a B13 and the COE is expiring next year. Getting a new car next year and just want to make sure that the car can last me till then. (My mum wants to be sure that I can drive responsibly before getting me a new car, kekekeke me still schooling so bo lui)

 

So can the car gurus out there help me make a diagnostic and the cost to rectify the problem.

 

Thanks a million

[Saaber]

Seems like a gearbox problem....the synchromesh in the gearbox is worn liao.....Anyway, just ignore the problem if it is still bearable since you are changing car next year....

 

By the way, did you ask the mech to check your clutch master cylinder when they were changing clutch.....

[Noname]

Hi Eddie thanks for your reply,

 

Hehehe me a swakoo when dealing with cars. That guy just told me that the clutch was worn and changed it for me since I just bought the car from him.

 

Since the problem is not that serious I think I'll put up with it till next year.

 

Anyway if I'm ever going to do any servicing I'll go to Riverview Auto at AMK autopoint. Did my alignment there and the ppl there seems to be friendly. Not sure whether their price is reasonable but I'm confident that they are trustworthy.

 

Hopefully by the time I get my new car, I'll be more knowledgable about car.

 

Thanks again

[Pauly75ts]

"me a swakoo when dealing with cars."

 

Hi! there, Noname,

 

Everyone has to start from the same situation as you. BTW, what's a B13? Do you engage the clutch pedal properly? Is the problem there, if another person drives the car?

 

Rgds

 

Paul Yong

[Guinness]

Sounds like a worn syncromesh - usual wear and tear. Sometimes, changing the gearbox oil might help alleviate (but not eliminate) the problem.

 

Beside doing that, all I can suggest is to go easy in the mornings, till the gearbox oil warms up.

 

BTW, I've never found downshifting to 1st ever necessary :)

[Car_guru]

B13 is the Sunny two generations before (SB- plates).

[Noname]

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Everyone has to start from the same situation as you. BTW, what's a B13? Do you engage the clutch pedal properly? Is the problem there, if another person drives the car?

 

Rgds

 

Paul Yong

Paul I think Car_guru has answered what a B13 is. Mine is a '94 Sunny.

 

Yup I'm very sure that I've engaged the clutch pedal fully, it only occurs when the car is cold in the morning. Like Guinness say, if I allow the car to warms up, the problem gradually disappears.

 

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BTW, I've never found downshifting to 1st ever necessary :)

Usually I don't find it necessary too, but when I have passengers (my coursemates usually) sometimes I feel that the first gear would provide more power. This is when the vehicle is still rolling but almost coming to a standstill already.

 

Hehehehe anyway thanks for all your help. Appreciate it.

 

Err BTW how much would it cost to replace/change the syncromesh?

[Pauly75ts]

"if I allow the car to warms up, the problem gradually disappears."

 

Hi! there, Noname,

 

If it's like you say, then gently ease into the 2nd gear. If it doesn't help, do like what Ferrari drivers do, change to 3rd instead, until the gearbox warms up.

 

There's no need to change the synchros if you can get the car moving without any more problems. The syncro rings cost only a few dollars, it's the labour to remove the gearbox that's going to cost you, as it's equivalent to an o/haul of gearbox. Another cheaper way is to get a 2nd-hand gearbox swap.

 

Thanks to Car_guru for enlightening me.

 

Rgds

 

Paul Yong

[Yongwd]

short term solution

 

1. you may wan to check, top up the transmission fluid?

2. engage into 2nd gear a split second later when rev drop to idle?

3. check your clutch cable for excessive stiffness and freeplay (B13 famous for this design problem)

4. Double clutching

 

Otherwise, it is not economical to repair/replace the gearbox since you left with 1yr with the car.

[Koolaba]

U r supposed to engage the first gear when e car is stationary.

 

As for the gear shift, bring to a mech n see whether there are any cures until u bid ur B13 good bye. I only have a slight problem engaging the 3rd gear on my B14 (v hard to engage)...but it's only once in a blue moon.

 

Probably u can try changing e gear lube n see if it helps.

[Noname]

Thanks everyone for ur kind input

 

Shagmobil what effect does a stiff clutch cable have on the car?

[Yongwd]

a stiff clutch cable indicates that the clutch pressure plate has aged (set aside racing units). If pressure plate is new but the clutch pedal is stiff, renew the clutch cable as high chance that the clutch cable has lengthen (ie u not fully disengaging the clutch when u fully step on the pedal)

[Noname]

Thanks get what you mean

[Epsilon]

Hi,

what about auto car? If the changing of gear is not smooth, does it mean that there is also something wrong with the gear box or just need to change the ATF?